Who said it?

[CousinRicky]

 

"I really like the fight in our group"

 

a) Skip Holtz

Stan Heath

c) past Manager of the Year Joe Maddon

d) Willie Taggart

 

If you answered a, b or c you would probably be correct. The latest one to say it was Joe Maddon after yesterday's loss.  However when a or b said it our fellow Bullspenners thought that it was just coming from a loser coach making excuses.  My point being that even in a loss you can like how your guys competed and the effort they made.  Also, and I'm guessing here, Taggart has never said it and most times threw his players under the bus last year IMO.

 

So let's hear how bad a coach Joe Maddon is and that I'm comparing apples and oranges.

Point proven in the responses.

 

When a or b says it, its ********. When c or d says it, there's a solid reason.

 

 

[charsibb]

CousinRicky =

 

[GaUSFBull]

It's one thing to say it after a loss in game 2 of a 162 game season especially when you are a 2 time AL coach of the year with multiple playoff appearances for a team with one of the lowest payrolls in the game and it's quite another to say it when you are in the midst of a 2-12 conference run in one of the weakest conferences in college football.

 

context means everything.

 

He nailed it.

[CousinRicky]

CousinRicky =

 

 

You're on to me. Need to change my M O.

[hm101]

COMPLETELY different mentalities. 

 

There is no ONE way to coach, but you sure as hell make it easier to win when you CARE and are passionate, unlike hum-drum-Holtz. Willie has the right attitude, and it WILL show. 

[zarnozdabull]

Definitely two types of coaches out there, especially after a loss:

 

The "yeah we lost but it was a good effort by our team" type of coach (Holtz & Heath)

 

&

 

The "this wasn't good enough, we need to work and win" type of coach coach (Taggart)

 

 

Now obviously that was the whole point of this thread and everyone has their own opinion but I feel like most USF fans are pretty much done hearing "good effort" coaches with no signs improvement. From the little that I've seen and heard COA talk he definitely seems like he leans toward the Taggart-type which gives me hope that players aren't going to walk all over him when they don't feel like working like they did with Heath.

Edited April 2, 2014 by zarnozdabull

[zarnozdabull]

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Edited April 2, 2014 by zarnozdabull

[raptorcj]

CWT took the "credit" when he felt it was on him, but who can blame him for trying to light a fire when the kids screwed up & needed it? Skippy & Stan made too many excuses, so even their compliments sounded like fluff.

[CousinRicky]

Definitely two types of coaches out there, especially after a loss:

 

The "yeah we lost but it was a good effort by our team" type of coach (Holtz & Heath) & Maddon

 

&

 

The "this wasn't good enough, we need to work and win" type of coach coach (Taggart)

 

 

Now obviously that was the whole point of this thread and everyone has their own opinion but I feel like most USF fans are pretty much done hearing "good effort" coaches with no signs improvement. From the little that I've seen and heard COA talk he definitely seems like he leans toward the Taggart-type which gives me hope that players aren't going to walk all over him when they don't feel like working like they did with Heath.

[DELdaBull]

A. No winning

B. Not enough winning

C. 90+ winning games a year

D. 1 crappy year