Mike White is starting against Houston

[Bull94]

 

The problem I have with this move is putting this kid behind a shaky o-line that's still trying to find itself and having him throw to a hodge podge of WRs.  It would be one thing if the players around him were confident and experienced with what they're doing, but it sure looks like they aren't. 

 

With regards to the Grothe comparisons, I would argue he was playing with more confident players that already knew the system.  Also, Grothe was more of an improvisational player that could make plays even if WRs weren't getting open or the O-line was breaking down.  White is completely different in that he'll be relying on solid play from the WRs and O-line in order to be successful.  Unfortunately I doubt he'll get solid play from either unit.  Just hope that doesn't shatter his confidence...

Kid is gonna need some good luck. Pure pocket passing freshman QB in his first start on the road behind the #20 OLine for giving up sacks... Scary.

 

tackles for loss allowed is a better stat to use.

 

it still includes sacks(which can be blamed on QBs as much as the line) but it gives you a better idea of overall efficiency.

 

#76 in country. not great but only .01 more per game than OU. not exactly earth shattering.

[Bull94]

Houston's Defense is not as good as probably any other BCS team we've played... Our o-line and WRs will at least have the chance to be held accountable if White can't get the ball out and read his progressions properly... We haven't been able to grade either the o-line or WRs the entire year because of our QB play... stabilize the QB play and then you can see what you have everywhere else.

they do give up a lot of yards but they are #1 in turnovers and #32 in points per game given up.

[Apis Bull]

 

 

 

The thing with Bench is that he is better runner than White, so I can see CWT bringing him in for certain situations. 

Bench has -24 yards rushing on the year. not to mention a big bulky knee brace.

 

 

The knee brace is a good point for this game, if he's still wearing it ... The -24 yards this year is a just plain stupid argument. 

 

how is that a stupid argument? if he was an effective runner then he wouldn't have -24 rushing on the year.

 

 

Don't sacks go against rushing stats in college?

[Bull Dozer]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that it is quite possible that CWT has been planning to put White in there for a while, but, he wanted to wait until Shaw was back to give him the best chance for success. I don't think that this decision was based on Eveld getting hurt or Bench throwing an INT. My guess is that it's been in the works for a while. If CWT was intent on keeping the RS in tact, White would have been getting very few reps in practice and there is no way he'd be ready, but, I think they have been preparing for this and the timing is right with Shaw coming back.

Coach T hinted at this a few weeks ago he said something along the lines of "Mike White is making hard for me to not play Jim with the way he's been practicing ' in a post practice interview.

[Bull94]

 

 

 

 

The thing with Bench is that he is better runner than White, so I can see CWT bringing him in for certain situations. 

Bench has -24 yards rushing on the year. not to mention a big bulky knee brace.

 

 

The knee brace is a good point for this game, if he's still wearing it ... The -24 yards this year is a just plain stupid argument. 

 

how is that a stupid argument? if he was an effective runner then he wouldn't have -24 rushing on the year.

 

 

Don't sacks go against rushing stats in college?

 

shouldn't a more mobile QB be sacked less?

 

i backed them out and he has 12 carries for 34 yards on the year.

[NCBull]

 

 

 

 

 

The thing with Bench is that he is better runner than White, so I can see CWT bringing him in for certain situations. 

Bench has -24 yards rushing on the year. not to mention a big bulky knee brace.

 

 

The knee brace is a good point for this game, if he's still wearing it ... The -24 yards this year is a just plain stupid argument. 

 

how is that a stupid argument? if he was an effective runner then he wouldn't have -24 rushing on the year.

 

 

Don't sacks go against rushing stats in college?

 

shouldn't a more mobile QB be sacked less?

 

i backed them out and he has 12 carries for 34 yards on the year.

 

This is you putting it all on the QB again and pardoning the Oline.

[Bull94]

 

 

 

 

 

 

The thing with Bench is that he is better runner than White, so I can see CWT bringing him in for certain situations. 

Bench has -24 yards rushing on the year. not to mention a big bulky knee brace.

 

 

The knee brace is a good point for this game, if he's still wearing it ... The -24 yards this year is a just plain stupid argument. 

 

how is that a stupid argument? if he was an effective runner then he wouldn't have -24 rushing on the year.

 

 

Don't sacks go against rushing stats in college?

 

shouldn't a more mobile QB be sacked less?

 

i backed them out and he has 12 carries for 34 yards on the year.

 

This is you putting it all on the QB again and pardoning the Oline.

 

no it's not. I'm saying a more mobile QB should get sacked less than a less mobile one. regardless of the line they are behind.

 

bench has been sacked more per pass attempt then Eveld and they both play behind the same line.

[dabull80]

 

If Mike White plays much better on Thursday than our other 3 guys have, then besides being deliriously happy I will come here to eat crow. Hope you'll do the same.

By no means am I rooting against this kid, but he just doesn't have much help out there and it's a high pressure situation. My read is that CWT is letting him take his lumps and get some serious gametime experience, while also realizing that White can't be any worse than our other options. I think it's a smart coaching move...but one that will get us crushed on Thursday. And honestly--big picture--at this point I'm ok with that.

 

it is unfair to white to put him in this position

 

a short week to boot

 

 

 

 

If Mike White plays much better on Thursday than our other 3 guys have, then besides being deliriously happy I will come here to eat crow. Hope you'll do the same.

By no means am I rooting against this kid, but he just doesn't have much help out there and it's a high pressure situation. My read is that CWT is letting him take his lumps and get some serious gametime experience, while also realizing that White can't be any worse than our other options. I think it's a smart coaching move...but one that will get us crushed on Thursday. And honestly--big picture--at this point I'm ok with that.

 

it is unfair to white to put him in this position

 

a short week to boot

 

 

 

lol  unfair ?  This is D-1 football not T-ball !  Grow a pair little buddy.

[dabull80]

I have absolutely no evidence or reason but just one of those gut feelings that our O will look totally different on Thursday night and in a good way.

 

Please please please - I am not making a White - Rodgers comparison but more to the point of how a QB makes all the difference.  On Sunday night the Packers WR group was a total unknown with the exception of Jordy Nelson and Rodgers made them look good.  So we all hope that White is the guy that can make our WRs look better.

[Who'sYourData?]

 

 

 

 

 

The thing with Bench is that he is better runner than White, so I can see CWT bringing him in for certain situations. 

Bench has -24 yards rushing on the year. not to mention a big bulky knee brace.

 

 

That includes sacks, so it really isn't an accurate number.

 

back out the sacks and he has 12 carries for 34 yards.

 

 

Exactly.

 

exactly what? he averages less than 3 yards per carry.

 

Eveld has a longer run than him this year. he also has more total yards rushing.

 

 

You were totally misrepresenting his stats.

 

But you aren't seriously going to say that Eveld is a better runner?  Seriously?