MSU = Nothing To Lose

[Apis Bull]

IMO, for every game, you play the players that give you the best chance to win that game PERIOD. I think the biggest reason Floyd and Eveld are 1-2 is because they are more familiar with this seemingly pretty complicated offense. As the season wears on, the other two should close that familiarity gap and if the current 1-2 haven't shown CWT what he needs to see, I'd hope he'd go to who he thinks gives us the best chance to win the next game.

 

I respect your opinion, but a coach needs to also consider the future.  Especially, since his job could depend on it.  I believe that Eveld's loss of his redshirt last season is why Floyd was starting, because CWT felt they were equal and Eveld is gone after this year.  Had Holtz not burned Eveld's redshirt, he might have been named the starter.

[GaUSFBull]

 

Put in the QB best able to help us win the conference this year. From my couch 500 miles away, it looks like Eveld to me. The season is NOT a wash regarding AAC conference play.

as long as you guys are willing to sacrifice the future. we are in the same spot next year, an inexperienced QB that will take his lumps, if Eveld goes the rest of the way.

 

Honestly if he was clear cut the better QB and I thought we even had an outside shot at the conference then i would say go for it but Eveld has been underwhelming himself. he was 10 of 20 for 130 yards (60 of which came on a 4th down,that was a 3 yard route taken the distance,  that easily could have been picked) in what essentially was garbage time against a 1-aa school. his previous results have been less than stellar as well. I really don't think he is a guy we could rely on to win us a game. he might not lose one like floyd (or any inexperienced QB that will make mistakes) but I really don't think he can be counted on to win one either. I say take our lumps. it's either now or next year.

 

 

I agree with what you're saying.  The big question here though, is if a realistic shot at a conference title this year at the expense of having an inexperienced QB next year is worth it?  

 

It seems like we've lost some recruits due to having rough seasons.  If this season was a success, perhaps the benefits of that would even out the negatives of QB inexperience next year ... ?

 

I don't know ... I just want to win.  It's too early in the season to start thinking about next year, IMO.  

[Apis Bull]

the above is purely speculation on my part.

[Bull94]

Why would you want to throw him out there if the team is in, "shambles?"  That means there might be less effort on his linemen to block, his receivers to catch, etc.   With a team that's given up, you greatly increase the risk of injury to him and to his psyche.  Unfortunately, QBs can be a little sensitive. 

put him out there against bad defenses. we have plenty in this conference. don't play him entire games. groom him for next year if he is the answer. I'm not saying start him against Michigan State but playing him for 4 or 5 series against smu, houston, memphis, FAU would be great experience for him and it would mean we wouldn't have to break a green QB in for next year.

 

if he has no experience going into next year then it's probably another year of subpar football getting him the experience any QB needs.

[Apis Bull]

Again, I understand where you're coming from, I just happen to disagree.

[Bull94]

 

 

Put in the QB best able to help us win the conference this year. From my couch 500 miles away, it looks like Eveld to me. The season is NOT a wash regarding AAC conference play.

as long as you guys are willing to sacrifice the future. we are in the same spot next year, an inexperienced QB that will take his lumps, if Eveld goes the rest of the way.

 

Honestly if he was clear cut the better QB and I thought we even had an outside shot at the conference then i would say go for it but Eveld has been underwhelming himself. he was 10 of 20 for 130 yards (60 of which came on a 4th down,that was a 3 yard route taken the distance,  that easily could have been picked) in what essentially was garbage time against a 1-aa school. his previous results have been less than stellar as well. I really don't think he is a guy we could rely on to win us a game. he might not lose one like floyd (or any inexperienced QB that will make mistakes) but I really don't think he can be counted on to win one either. I say take our lumps. it's either now or next year.

 

 

I agree with what you're saying.  The big question here though, is if a realistic shot at a conference title this year at the expense of having an inexperienced QB next year is worth it?  

 

It seems like we've lost some recruits due to having rough seasons.  If this season was a success, perhaps the benefits of that would even out the negatives of QB inexperience next year ... ?

 

I don't know ... I just want to win.  It's too early in the season to start thinking about next year, IMO.  

 

By the looks of it on saturday I think we might have a little trouble beating Louisville (or anyone for that matter) for a conference title.

[Bull94]

 

IMO, for every game, you play the players that give you the best chance to win that game PERIOD. I think the biggest reason Floyd and Eveld are 1-2 is because they are more familiar with this seemingly pretty complicated offense. As the season wears on, the other two should close that familiarity gap and if the current 1-2 haven't shown CWT what he needs to see, I'd hope he'd go to who he thinks gives us the best chance to win the next game.

 

I respect your opinion, but a coach needs to also consider the future.  Especially, since his job could depend on it.  I believe that Eveld's loss of his redshirt last season is why Floyd was starting, because CWT felt they were equal and Eveld is gone after this year.  Had Holtz not burned Eveld's redshirt, he might have been named the starter.

 

Taggart may not be here in 5 years if he doesn't find and groom a QB as soon as possible.

[Triple B]

the above is purely speculation on my part.

 

I certainly hope that was purely speculation and not what CWT did. He needs his eye on THIS year and you know there was no way they were both exactly equal. One showed him more, even if just a miniscule amount, and it better have been Floyd.

[Bull94]

IMO, for every game, you play the players that give you the best chance to win that game PERIOD. I think the biggest reason Floyd and Eveld are 1-2 is because they are more familiar with this seemingly pretty complicated offense. As the season wears on, the other two should close that familiarity gap and if the current 1-2 haven't shown CWT what he needs to see, I'd hope he'd go to who he thinks gives us the best chance to win the next game.

so you don't agree with playing players to gain experience for the future?

 

personally I think that it's crucial in college with the limited time they have with players.

 

I'm just saying if he thinks White is the answer for next year and beyond then it would be more beneficial for him to play right away. gain some experience playing 4 or 5 series against the worst defenses. ease him into the job. if he red shirts and then starts him next year with no experience then we are in another transition year breaking in a raw QB.

[GaUSFBull]

 

 

 

Put in the QB best able to help us win the conference this year. From my couch 500 miles away, it looks like Eveld to me. The season is NOT a wash regarding AAC conference play.

as long as you guys are willing to sacrifice the future. we are in the same spot next year, an inexperienced QB that will take his lumps, if Eveld goes the rest of the way.

 

Honestly if he was clear cut the better QB and I thought we even had an outside shot at the conference then i would say go for it but Eveld has been underwhelming himself. he was 10 of 20 for 130 yards (60 of which came on a 4th down,that was a 3 yard route taken the distance,  that easily could have been picked) in what essentially was garbage time against a 1-aa school. his previous results have been less than stellar as well. I really don't think he is a guy we could rely on to win us a game. he might not lose one like floyd (or any inexperienced QB that will make mistakes) but I really don't think he can be counted on to win one either. I say take our lumps. it's either now or next year.

 

 

I agree with what you're saying.  The big question here though, is if a realistic shot at a conference title this year at the expense of having an inexperienced QB next year is worth it?  

 

It seems like we've lost some recruits due to having rough seasons.  If this season was a success, perhaps the benefits of that would even out the negatives of QB inexperience next year ... ?

 

I don't know ... I just want to win.  It's too early in the season to start thinking about next year, IMO.  

 

By the looks of it on saturday I think we might have a little trouble beating Louisville (or anyone for that matter) for a conference title.

 

 

By the looks of it yes, but again, we've only had 1 game in this system too.  I usually like to wait a few weeks to see trends before I totally write the year off.