The 2009 remembrance thread

[Plantation Pete]

Yeah and everyone is beating off to a USF team that beat a 7-6 FSU team who was so bad they canned one of greatest coaches to ever step on a football field.

I'm so over the anti Skip ******** on here. Yes he's doing horribly, he sucks, it sucks, but for fucks sake lets not act like we were gee dee world beaters before he came in here.

The previous regime was heading to the same place we are today.

Point of Order: Had USF lost to FSU then they would have bee 8-5.

Your anti Leavitt ******** is duly noted, though.

I'm not anti Leavitt.

I'm realistic.

Naw...You want to diminish what a big win it was against one of the "Florida Big 3" by an upstart program with a redshirt freshman in his first start at QB. No, it was not the best year for FSU, but they are still a long established program with a deep history. It was a big, emotional win no matter how you slice it or dice it.

[Joe]

Yeah that totally not what I was saying.

I was directing it more at the constant ******** about Skip that this board has enveloped itself in.

[South_Florida_Flip]

The previous regime was heading to the same place we are today.

Disagree to a certain extent. I don't think the previous staff would have even seen a 5-7 season overall while in the Big East.

Leavitt went 2-5 his last year in the BE. Not sure he would have sunk this far, but the trend was there.

I still don't think he would have sunk to the point of going 1-6 in the league and not going to a bowl game.

[Bullshiznitz]

I guess everyone forgets that Skip went into South Bend and beat a Irish team that was a lot better than the 2009 Nole team.

Someone has to be a voice for why Skip isn't Jon L Smith.

Notre Dame was 8-5 last year with their only good win verse Mich St.. FSU was 7-6 in 2009 with victories over ranked BYU and WVU. Who was better is actually quit debatable, and I hardly would say that last years Notre Dame team was "a lot better".

Nice try. Notre Dame's losses last year included BCS teams in Michigan and Stanford. And another 10-2 team in USC (who was not bowl eligible)

2009 FSU needed a late win against Maryland just to get bowl eligible.

OK, and FSU lost to BCS teams Ga Tech and UF in 2009. So they both lost to any great team they played.

In 2009, FSU was 2-4 verse teams that finished ranked

In 2011, ND was 1-4 verse teams that finished ranked

Spin it all you want, theres nothing indicating that last years Notre Dame team was "a lot better".

[Plantation Pete]

The previous regime was heading to the same place we are today.

Disagree to a certain extent. I don't think the previous staff would have even seen a 5-7 season overall while in the Big East.

Leavitt went 2-5 his last year in the BE. Not sure he would have sunk this far, but the trend was there.

No, in 2009 it was 3-4 when the Big East was at its peak with the final polls showing Cincy #8, Pit #15 and WVU #25. WVU would have been ranked higher, but their loss to USF was a wet blanket on that.

Now what kind of trend do you see for Skip? 2010...3-4; 2011...1-6; 2012...0-1

[flsportsfan83]

Yeah and everyone is beating off to a USF team that beat a 7-6 FSU team who was so bad they canned one of greatest coaches to ever step on a football field.

I'm so over the anti Skip ******** on here. Yes he's doing horribly, he sucks, it sucks, but for fucks sake lets not act like we were gee dee world beaters before he came in here.

The previous regime was heading to the same place we are today.

Point of Order: Had USF lost to FSU then they would have bee 8-5.

Your anti Leavitt ******** is duly noted, though.

I'm not anti Leavitt.

I'm realistic.

Naw...You want to diminish what a big win it was against one of the "Florida Big 3" by an upstart program with a redshirt freshman in his first start at QB. No, it was not the best year for FSU, but they are still a long established program with a deep history. It was a big, emotional win no matter how you slice it or dice it.

I'm no longer a Holtz guy, but he did meat Miami and has the most impressive bowl win in School history. Leavitt was in over his head as well.

[Plantation Pete]

Yeah and everyone is beating off to a USF team that beat a 7-6 FSU team who was so bad they canned one of greatest coaches to ever step on a football field.

I'm so over the anti Skip ******** on here. Yes he's doing horribly, he sucks, it sucks, but for fucks sake lets not act like we were gee dee world beaters before he came in here.

The previous regime was heading to the same place we are today.

Point of Order: Had USF lost to FSU then they would have bee 8-5.

Your anti Leavitt ******** is duly noted, though.

I'm not anti Leavitt.

I'm realistic.

Naw...You want to diminish what a big win it was against one of the "Florida Big 3" by an upstart program with a redshirt freshman in his first start at QB. No, it was not the best year for FSU, but they are still a long established program with a deep history. It was a big, emotional win no matter how you slice it or dice it.

Leavitt was in over his head as well.

Really? How so? Please expand on that with specifics.

PS...In 2010 Clemson was 4-4 in the ACC and ended the year 6-7. Hardly impressive.

Edited September 26, 2012 by Plantation Pete

[flsportsfan83]

what was his Big East record, I believe it was under .500

[Southshore26]

Yeah that totally not what I was saying.

I was directing it more at the constant ******** about Skip that this board has enveloped itself in.

Skip is doing a ****** job as a coach... This team has the talent to be much better than it's currently preforming. What's your issue?

[Southshore26]

Really? How so? Please expand on that with specifics.

PS...In 2010 Clemson was 4-4 in the ACC and ended the year 6-7. Hardly impressive.

Leavitt had peaked.... we weren't going to get any higher with him here.