Wow ND to the ACC! Now what for the BE?

[CousinRicky]

Just watched Brett McM and some other guy on Outside the Lines. Brett said that the ACC has language in their deal with ESPN that would allow for them to get a bump up from their $17 in the current contract. Neither Brett nor the other guy see Big 12 adding teams. The crux of the argument is that there is no one (Brett mentioned L'ville) that the Big 12 could add that would raise the Per Team dollars. So adding L'ville, USF, Cinci, Rutgers or whoever, while increasing total revenue for the conference, would dilute the per team take. Makes sense to me. I think any chance, and not a big one at that, of a Big 12 entry passed with Lee Roy Selmon.

I think shuffling is done. people keep saying conferences will go to 16. it would only mean less payout per team if they did. only big 12 makes some sense to get to 12 for champ game but that would also decrease payout per team as champ game is only worth $15M or so. they would need 2 teams to add another $25M+ just to break even. I think Texas would rather stay at 10. easier to make playoffs and no more money at 12.

Don't remember why, but they mentioned something about the Big 12 possibly not wanting a championship game, even if going to 12 teams.

[gobulls83]

all this is is espn keeping the one piece of ND that they can. their olympic sports. big deal. sure it hurts that it won't be part of our NBC deal and it will cost us some but it won't destroy the conference.

It will hurt our per team payout but it will still pay us a large increase over what we have not. Will it be a $17M per school agreement,no, but it will still be enough to remain competitive. I thikn we will end up around $12-$15M per school when the new TV deal is done. The problem is will it be high enough to warrant everyone giving up the rights? That I am not sure of.

TV will make us sign away our rights for the length of the contract. not a big deal IMO.

Dead on.....here:http://espn.go.com/b...ible-without-nd Andrea nailed it. It will hurt but not kills us. ACC said they are not adding anyone else. This was a strategic move to reopen negotiations on their TV contract.

That wasn't written by Andrea Adelson.

[South_Florida_Flip]

again why would fsu leave this week ,and pay $50m regardless of who pays it, when they could have left last week and not pay $50M.

if it was going to happen, it would have happened before today. it would have saved all those involved $25M +

they aren't going to move for an additional $3M. they wouldn't play in their region and the competition would be much greater.

They wouldn't have to pay $50 million until ND joins.

ND can still get out of the Big East at $5 million. The $10 million buyout doesn't start until the new programs come into the Big East.

FSU could leave if it meant a better TV deal with the Big 12 with the Tier 3 rights they are seeking.

[Bull94]

again why would fsu leave this week ,and pay $50m regardless of who pays it, when they could have left last week and not pay $50M.

if it was going to happen, it would have happened before today. it would have saved all those involved $25M +

they aren't going to move for an additional $3M. they wouldn't play in their region and the competition would be much greater.

They wouldn't have to pay $50 million until ND joins.

ND can still get out of the Big East at $5 million. The $10 million buyout doesn't start until the new programs come into the Big East.

FSU could leave if it meant a better TV deal with the Big 12 with the Tier 3 rights they are seeking.

anything to back that up?

why did TCU have to pay a BE buyout before they ever "joined"?

it's the agreement that validates the buyout.

I assume they signed a contract when they voted.

ND buyout is different. they aren't a football member. doubt they were ever liable for $10m football schools agreed to.

[slbpsi63]

I think its just 10million for football members or full members to leave, I might be wrong.

[usfgrad84]

Ok, I highly doubt that NBC is basing their entire decision about wanting to move forward with their NBC sports network based solely on Notre Dame football. This makes me believe that NBC will be more in need of quality programming. The Big East represents the best available programming package for NBC right now. the other alternatives are probably things like ESPN had in their early days like barrel jumping on ice skates and college ultimate frisbee.

The negotiations are going to depend on the vision that NBC Sports programming has for the league. How they will go about promoting the conference, how they expect to promote each team, the games, how they will promote the network. They are really going in a different direction so. the important thing is the vision they have created and how they sell it.

No one outside of NBC knows that direction or vision yet so it will be a very interesting couple of months.

[South_Florida_Flip]

I think its just 10million for football members or full members to leave, I might be wrong.

Good call on that

[Bull94]

Ok, I highly doubt that NBC is basing their entire decision about wanting to move forward with their NBC sports network based solely on Notre Dame football. This makes me believe that NBC will be more in need of quality programming. The Big East represents the best available programming package for NBC right now. the other alternatives are probably things like ESPN had in their early days like barrel jumping on ice skates and college ultimate frisbee.

The negotiations are going to depend on the vision that NBC Sports programming has for the league. How they will go about promoting the conference, how they expect to promote each team, the games, how they will promote the network. They are really going in a different direction so. the important thing is the vision they have created and how they sell it.

No one outside of NBC knows that direction or vision yet so it will be a very interesting couple of months.

agreed. they seem committed to growing the nbc sports channel. can't get pro sports. need to go after college. we're the only game in town for awhile.

[South_Florida_Flip]

anything to back that up?

why did TCU have to pay a BE buyout before they ever "joined"?

it's the agreement that validates the buyout.

I assume they signed a contract when they voted.

ND buyout is different. they aren't a football member. doubt they were ever liable for $10m football schools agreed to.

Bulls 247 site with Josh Newberg. He's well connected on FSU.

I was totally off on the ND buyout.

[Bull94]

anything to back that up?

why did TCU have to pay a BE buyout before they ever "joined"?

it's the agreement that validates the buyout.

I assume they signed a contract when they voted.

ND buyout is different. they aren't a football member. doubt they were ever liable for $10m football schools agreed to.

Bulls 247 site with Josh Newberg. He's well connected on FSU.

I was totally off on the ND buyout.

well he's wrong. ND would not agree to join a conference, even as a partial member, if it's members weren't firmly in place. I'm sure it was a stipulation that they insisted on. ND had all the leverage in this deal.

they weren't going to leave a window where members could leave unless they paid a huge penalty. it could change the entire landscape of the conference .