2013 Forward Demetrius Henry

[Triple B]

It's a problem we've had seemingly forever .... building depth... and will probably continue to have until our program hits a higher level. Kids don't mind sitting for couple of years at established programs but not so much here.

[Paisa el Toro]

d Hawkins hopefully will develop (talented, but in my opinion needs work and a faster tempo to succeed) and you have 6 underclassmen that should contribute - building DEPTH. GO BULLS!

Hawkins is transferring. No link because nothing is official, but that is straight from Javontes mouth, and confirmed by another player on the team that I am friends with.

 

Is it a matter of homesickness? If you're at liberty to explain the "why," I'd love to hear it.

[SattyBull]

I didn't hear Hawkins give a reason but I was talking to my friend on the team and said "oh yeah, I heard Hawkins may be transferring". And he responded saying its basically definite and he's home sick and wasn't happy with how his play time dropped at the end of the season. We'll see if it works out like that.

[charsibb]

I didn't hear Hawkins give a reason but I was talking to my friend on the team and said "oh yeah, I heard Hawkins may be transferring". And he responded saying its basically definite and he's home sick and wasn't happy with how his play time dropped at the end of the season. We'll see if it works out like that.

 

Wow. I hope he's already told Heath, 'cause if he hadn't, he might find the transfer paperwork inexplicably delayed or some such...

 

I know if I was Coach, I'd hate to hear about it secondhand

Edited April 4, 2013 by charsibb

[Hem]

That's a shame, I thought he got a lot of playing time for a freshman and showed a ton of potential. Would only think he'd get MORE playing time next year with LeDay.

[Vega]

It's a problem we've had seemingly forever .... building depth... and will probably continue to have until our program hits a higher level. Kids don't mind sitting for couple of years at established programs but not so much here.

That simply not a true statement. Guys transferring has been a ongoing problem for a few years and it has nothing to do with what the school's name is or how prestigious. Guys are just not being patient and probably to many people are in their ear telling them that they deserve something not earned through practice and hard work. I listed this article http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/luke_winn/07/18/up-transfers-NCAA-basketball/index.html last year that talked about this subject. It's a really good read.

A list of transfers as of a few days ago. It has grown since then.

Martins Abele, 7-1, C, Jr., Duquesne

Patrick Ackerman, 6-11, F, Soph., Penn State

Anrio Adams, 6-3, G, Fr., Kansas

Jeremy Adams, 6-4, SG, Jr., Colorado

Kevin Berardini, 6-0, G, Sr., Illinois

Jaylen Bond, 6-7, F, Soph., Texas

Jvonte Brooks, 6-6, F, Soph., Dartmouth

Aaron Brown, 6-5, G, Soph., West Virginia

K.J. Brown, 6-2, G, Sr., Binghamton

Robert Brown, 6-5, Soph., Virginia Tech

Martin Bruenig, 6-8, F, Soph., Washington

Taran Buie, 6-2, G, Soph., Hofstra

Jordan Burris, 6-7, SG, Jr., Nevada

Dominique Bull, 6-4, G, Fr., Missouri

Jackson Carbajal, 6-3, SG, Jr., Sacramento State

Tariq Carey, 6-1, G, Fr., Quinnipiac

Casey Carroll, 6-8, F, RS Fr., Drexel

Matt Citron, 6-7, PF, Fr., Presbyterian

Aaron Cosby, 6-2, G, Soph., Seton Hall

Jalen Crawford, 6-2, G, Soph., Bradley

Dantiel Daniels, 6-5, F, Soph., Southern Illinois

Jonathan Davis, 6-7, F, Soph., George Washington

Josh Davis, 6-8, PF, Jr., Tulane

Rod Days, 6-6, SF, Soph., UCF

Ibby Djime, 6-8, F, Soph., Illinois

Ivan Dorsey, 6-0, G, Jr., Eastern Washington

Justin Edwards, 6-3, G, Soph., Maine

Jon Ekey, 6-7, F, Jr., Illinois State

Devonte Elliott, 6-10, F, Jr., Nevada

Eric Fanning, 6-4, SG, Fr., Wagner

Drimir Ferguson, 5-8, G, Jr, NC Central

Chase Fischer, 6-2, G, Soph., Wake Forest

Brian Freeman, 6-8, PF, Binghamton

Amir Garrett, 6-6, SG, Soph., St. John's

Jimmy Gavin, 6-2, G, Soph., Bradley

Volo Gerun, 6-10, F, Soph., West Virginia

Jerron Granberry, 6-5, G, Sr., North Florida

Reggie Groves, 6-2, SG, Jr., Canisius

D.J. Haley, 7-0, Jr., VCU

Blake Hamilton, 6-5, SG, Fr., Northern Arizona

Ryan Harrow, 6-0, PG, RS Soph., Kentucky

Jabarie Hinds, 5-11, G, Soph., West Virginia

Steve Johnson, 6-7, C, Jr., Winthrop

Isiah Jones, 6-4, G, Soph., UAB

Malick Kone, 6-5, F, Soph., Rutgers

Lasan Kromah, 6-5, G, Sr., George Washington

Fred Landers, 6-5, G, Soph., North Florida

Max Landis, 6-2, G, Soph., Gardner-Webb

Jarrell Lane, 6-0, G, Soph., UMBC

Devin Langford, 6-7, F, Fr., Illinois

Herdie Lawrence, 6-1, G, Soph., Austin Peay

A.J. Lynch, 6-2, G, Fr., Austin Peay

Jan Maehlen, 7-0, C, RS Soph., Pepperdine

Akosa Maduegbunam, 6-3, G, Fr., Penn State

R.J. Mahurin, 6-9, F, Jr., Indiana State

Kostadin Marshavelski, 6-11, C, Jr., Northeastern

Chris Martin, 6-0, G, Soph., Marshall

Derrick Martin, 6-9, RS Soph., PF, Duquesne

Nick Mason, 6-1, G, Jr., Idaho State

Keith Matthews, 6-5, SF, Jr., Fairfield

Sheldon McClellan, 6-4, G, Soph., Texas

Ryan McCoy, 6-9, PF, Soph., Manhattan

Stuart McEwen, 6-8, F, Fr., Old Dominion

Andre McPhail, 6-7, F, Fr., Buffalo

Earvin Morris Jr., 6-5, SF, Fr., Kent State

Mike Moser, 6-8, F, Jr UNLV

Cameron Naylor, 6-7, F, Fr., North Florida

Manny Ochenje, 6-8, F, Soph., Pepperdine

Teddy Okereafor, 6-3, G, Soph., VCU

Mike Orris, 6-2, G, Fr., Kansas State

Chris Page, 6-5, SG, Fr., Albany

David Pellom, 6-8, F, Sr., George Washington

Chris Perez, 6-3, G, Jr., Stetson

Dylan Poston, 6-4, G, Fr., Mercer

Jodan Price, 6-5, SG, Fr., DePaul

Rodney Purvis, 6-2, SG, Fr., NC State

Cleon Roberts, 6-5, SG, Fr., Georgia Southern

Kaileb Rodriguez, 6-9, F, Fr., California

John Ross Glover, 6-4, G, Fr., Lipscomb

Julian Royal, 6-8, F, Soph., Georgia Tech

Jerome Seagears, 6-1, G, Soph., Rutgers

Justin Seymour, 6-3, G, Fr., Utah

Mike Shaw, 6-8, F, Soph., Illinois

Shayok Shayok, 6-7, F, Soph., Bradley

Jeff Short, 6-4, SG, Soph., Fordham

Rhett Smith, 6-7, F, Fr., Indiana State

Cameron Solomon, 6-3, G, Soph., Georgia State

Bernard Sullivan, 6-8, F, Soph., Clemson

Ricky Tarrant, 6-2, G, Soph., Tulane

Larry Taylor, 6-1, G, Fr., Liberty

Jake Thomas, 6-3, SG, Jr., Marquette

Jordan Threloff, 6-10, C, Soph., Illinois State

David Travers, 6-0, G, Fr., Georgia State

Zeke Upshaw, 6-6, SF, RS Jr., Illinois State

Christophe Varidel, 6-2, G, Jr, Florida Gulf Coast

Eric Washington, 5-10, G, Soph., Presbyterian

Negus Webster-Chan, 6-7, G, Fr, Missouri

Jordan Wejnert, 6-6, G, Soph., UMBC

Will Wise, 6-8, F, Soph., UMBC

Achraf Yacoubou, 6-4, SG, Soph., Villanova

Aquil Younger, 6-0, PG, Soph., Drexel

Trey Zeigler, 6-5, SG, Jr., Pittsburgh

 

Edited April 7, 2013 by Vega

[Triple B]

It's a problem we've had seemingly forever .... building depth... and will probably continue to have until our program hits a higher level. Kids don't mind sitting for couple of years at established programs but not so much here.

That simply not a true statement. Guys transferring has been a ongoing problem for a few years and it has nothing to do with what the school's name is or how prestigious. Guys are just not being patient and probably to many people are in their ear telling them that they deserve something not earned through practice and hard work. I listed this article http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/luke_winn/07/18/up-transfers-NCAA-basketball/index.html last year that talked about this subject. It's a really good read.

A list of transfers as of a few days ago. It has grown since then.

Martins Abele, 7-1, C, Jr., Duquesne

Patrick Ackerman, 6-11, F, Soph., Penn State

Anrio Adams, 6-3, G, Fr., Kansas

Jeremy Adams, 6-4, SG, Jr., Colorado

Kevin Berardini, 6-0, G, Sr., Illinois

Jaylen Bond, 6-7, F, Soph., Texas

Jvonte Brooks, 6-6, F, Soph., Dartmouth

Aaron Brown, 6-5, G, Soph., West Virginia

K.J. Brown, 6-2, G, Sr., Binghamton

Robert Brown, 6-5, Soph., Virginia Tech

Martin Bruenig, 6-8, F, Soph., Washington

Taran Buie, 6-2, G, Soph., Hofstra

Jordan Burris, 6-7, SG, Jr., Nevada

Dominique Bull, 6-4, G, Fr., Missouri

Jackson Carbajal, 6-3, SG, Jr., Sacramento State

Tariq Carey, 6-1, G, Fr., Quinnipiac

Casey Carroll, 6-8, F, RS Fr., Drexel

Matt Citron, 6-7, PF, Fr., Presbyterian

Aaron Cosby, 6-2, G, Soph., Seton Hall

Jalen Crawford, 6-2, G, Soph., Bradley

Dantiel Daniels, 6-5, F, Soph., Southern Illinois

Jonathan Davis, 6-7, F, Soph., George Washington

Josh Davis, 6-8, PF, Jr., Tulane

Rod Days, 6-6, SF, Soph., UCF

Ibby Djime, 6-8, F, Soph., Illinois

Ivan Dorsey, 6-0, G, Jr., Eastern Washington

Justin Edwards, 6-3, G, Soph., Maine

Jon Ekey, 6-7, F, Jr., Illinois State

Devonte Elliott, 6-10, F, Jr., Nevada

Eric Fanning, 6-4, SG, Fr., Wagner

Drimir Ferguson, 5-8, G, Jr, NC Central

Chase Fischer, 6-2, G, Soph., Wake Forest

Brian Freeman, 6-8, PF, Binghamton

Amir Garrett, 6-6, SG, Soph., St. John's

Jimmy Gavin, 6-2, G, Soph., Bradley

Volo Gerun, 6-10, F, Soph., West Virginia

Jerron Granberry, 6-5, G, Sr., North Florida

Reggie Groves, 6-2, SG, Jr., Canisius

D.J. Haley, 7-0, Jr., VCU

Blake Hamilton, 6-5, SG, Fr., Northern Arizona

Ryan Harrow, 6-0, PG, RS Soph., Kentucky

Jabarie Hinds, 5-11, G, Soph., West Virginia

Steve Johnson, 6-7, C, Jr., Winthrop

Isiah Jones, 6-4, G, Soph., UAB

Malick Kone, 6-5, F, Soph., Rutgers

Lasan Kromah, 6-5, G, Sr., George Washington

Fred Landers, 6-5, G, Soph., North Florida

Max Landis, 6-2, G, Soph., Gardner-Webb

Jarrell Lane, 6-0, G, Soph., UMBC

Devin Langford, 6-7, F, Fr., Illinois

Herdie Lawrence, 6-1, G, Soph., Austin Peay

A.J. Lynch, 6-2, G, Fr., Austin Peay

Jan Maehlen, 7-0, C, RS Soph., Pepperdine

Akosa Maduegbunam, 6-3, G, Fr., Penn State

R.J. Mahurin, 6-9, F, Jr., Indiana State

Kostadin Marshavelski, 6-11, C, Jr., Northeastern

Chris Martin, 6-0, G, Soph., Marshall

Derrick Martin, 6-9, RS Soph., PF, Duquesne

Nick Mason, 6-1, G, Jr., Idaho State

Keith Matthews, 6-5, SF, Jr., Fairfield

Sheldon McClellan, 6-4, G, Soph., Texas

Ryan McCoy, 6-9, PF, Soph., Manhattan

Stuart McEwen, 6-8, F, Fr., Old Dominion

Andre McPhail, 6-7, F, Fr., Buffalo

Earvin Morris Jr., 6-5, SF, Fr., Kent State

Mike Moser, 6-8, F, Jr UNLV

Cameron Naylor, 6-7, F, Fr., North Florida

Manny Ochenje, 6-8, F, Soph., Pepperdine

Teddy Okereafor, 6-3, G, Soph., VCU

Mike Orris, 6-2, G, Fr., Kansas State

Chris Page, 6-5, SG, Fr., Albany

David Pellom, 6-8, F, Sr., George Washington

Chris Perez, 6-3, G, Jr., Stetson

Dylan Poston, 6-4, G, Fr., Mercer

Jodan Price, 6-5, SG, Fr., DePaul

Rodney Purvis, 6-2, SG, Fr., NC State

Cleon Roberts, 6-5, SG, Fr., Georgia Southern

Kaileb Rodriguez, 6-9, F, Fr., California

John Ross Glover, 6-4, G, Fr., Lipscomb

Julian Royal, 6-8, F, Soph., Georgia Tech

Jerome Seagears, 6-1, G, Soph., Rutgers

Justin Seymour, 6-3, G, Fr., Utah

Mike Shaw, 6-8, F, Soph., Illinois

Shayok Shayok, 6-7, F, Soph., Bradley

Jeff Short, 6-4, SG, Soph., Fordham

Rhett Smith, 6-7, F, Fr., Indiana State

Cameron Solomon, 6-3, G, Soph., Georgia State

Bernard Sullivan, 6-8, F, Soph., Clemson

Ricky Tarrant, 6-2, G, Soph., Tulane

Larry Taylor, 6-1, G, Fr., Liberty

Jake Thomas, 6-3, SG, Jr., Marquette

Jordan Threloff, 6-10, C, Soph., Illinois State

David Travers, 6-0, G, Fr., Georgia State

Zeke Upshaw, 6-6, SF, RS Jr., Illinois State

Christophe Varidel, 6-2, G, Jr, Florida Gulf Coast

Eric Washington, 5-10, G, Soph., Presbyterian

Negus Webster-Chan, 6-7, G, Fr, Missouri

Jordan Wejnert, 6-6, G, Soph., UMBC

Will Wise, 6-8, F, Soph., UMBC

Achraf Yacoubou, 6-4, SG, Soph., Villanova

Aquil Younger, 6-0, PG, Soph., Drexel

Trey Zeigler, 6-5, SG, Jr., Pittsburgh

 

 

I'm going to assume that the bolded ones there are what you think that I would consider an "established program" and to be honest, I'm not really sure what the exact criteria would be, but I guaran-****-tee you that Rutgers and UCF would not fall under it ... Maybe "high profile" would be better, and there are some on that list that would fall under that, but the vast majority wouldn't ... and that article was a good read but I'd like to see more info on kids "down transferring" to get more playing time.

[Lmshaffe]

Demetrius said the single most important factor in making his decision is playing time. I think he could see some good playing time at USF

http://ask.fm/ptpmeat/answer/34668187910

[Triple B]

Demetrius said the single most important factor in making his decision is playing time.

I think that's my least favorite reason I see for a kid choosing a school ... Even when it does work in our favor.

[Vega]

Demetrius said the single most important factor in making his decision is playing time.

I think that's my least favorite reason I see for a kid choosing a school ... Even when it does work in our favor.

 

Yeah he actually had a two part question but broke it down. The question was originally what was more important playing time, winning, or both. He values a lot of playing time(30 minutes per) over winning and less playing time.

 

It was broke down like this. The team with the best chance of winning next season is by far USF with what they have returning and the incoming class of Egbunu, Perry, Zeigler, Clayton, and Heath.  Miami has a major rebuilding project ahead after losing so many upperclassmen and very likely Shane Larkin. South Carolina is a long ways from contending in the SEC.

 

I know the coaches of the other two schools are beating Henry over the head that USF has Egbunu and Perry and he won't get the touches and PT at USF that USC and Miami can give him. In reality if Henry were to play for the Bulls, Perry and Egbunu will share time at center, while Henry and LeDay play PF and some SF which gives both guys plenty of minutes. Also out of all the front court Bigs, Henry will get the most touches because he is far more advance offensively then Egbunu and Perry. I can easily see Henry as the second leading scorer on USF next season behind Rudd.