USF @ U Conn at 8pm on ESPN2

[Triple B]

You should feel horrible.  Afterall, you worked so hard for that win.  Through the spring and fall...scrimmages, two-a-days, weight room, film room, wow!

This argument you have switched to is getting pretty weak. Are you telling me you shouldnt get excited after a big win? Or you cant feel a sense of accomplishment after your team wins it all? Thats ********.

By declaring yourself a fan of USF football, you are giving your support for the team, win or lose. The team is playing like crap, and while they are being embaressed on the field fans are being embaressed for suppporting them. That is sports.

I think this may be kind of the perfect explanation of the difference in the two major fan factions in here. I only feel a sense of accomplishment when I  achieve something ... Like wise, I only feel embarassed by something I  screw up. Obviously, there is a large faction on here that think they are one with the team itself and feel when the team looks bad, THEY look bad and then get pissed about it .... Maybe our glare patch psychiatrist can do reading on THAT. 

Well than there is no reason for 99.99% of the population to root for sports teams, because thats how many dont play the game. If it is only the team that is supposed to impact, then being a fan is pointless.

If you dont have any feelings or emotions, then aren't you just observing a game? Why affiliate with USF, or the Bucs, or the Bolts at all?

Do you have a reading impediment? Where did I say that I didn't have any emotions about the teams I'm a fan of? My point was I don't live vicariously through them like some must do on here to get so bent out of shape ...

[Brad]

You should feel horrible.  Afterall, you worked so hard for that win.  Through the spring and fall...scrimmages, two-a-days, weight room, film room, wow!

This argument you have switched to is getting pretty weak. Are you telling me you shouldnt get excited after a big win? Or you cant feel a sense of accomplishment after your team wins it all? Thats ********.

By declaring yourself a fan of USF football, you are giving your support for the team, win or lose. The team is playing like crap, and while they are being embaressed on the field fans are being embaressed for suppporting them. That is sports.

I haven't switched to any argument.  I'm only trying to console a fellow Bulls fan who seems adrift after the recent spell.  He should feel horrible after everything he put into sitting there drunk or otherwise.

And no, I disagree with this intense, almost psychological, emotional investment.  I don't celebrate a win or mourn a loss as if it has some special meaning to me as a fan.  I feel no accomplishment when the team wins...that makes no sense.  Sitting here watching the TV, I should feel accomplishment?  For doing nothing?  However, when you say:

"By declaring yourself a fan of USF football, you are giving your support for the team, win or lose."

You are dead on. 

But it seems when we lose, it doesn't work that way for many fans.  They riddle the team with insults, demean them and are "embarrassed".  Try supporting a child in that way...or your spouse.  They need your support when they stumble.  Not your feigned embarassment. 

I think if someone is embarrassed for supporting anything in life, they should look for something else to support, or learn better to cope.  A loss in a college football game should not be taken personally.

But anyway, I don't see eye-to-eye with some of you on this - that's ok.  Pouting, screaming, cursing and whining won't change anything.  I find that a fruitless response.  It's just a football game.  My "rank with my posse" does not hinge on whether the Bulls win or lose.  I have nothing to be embarrassed about and no sense of pride or accomplishment at stake in a college football game.  CJL does, not me.

[feardabull]

I'll be at Ray Jay that night.

Sux if I miss a win, tho.

[cmhatter]

it is going to be REALLY cold.

i still think we have a shot to pull it off.

[USFan]

I will be there… me +5

Section 137 Row 1

This will be a cold one, but I'm used to it. Can we finish on a three game winning streak? One can dream and hope!

[Cow Pie]

As much as it pains me I'm leaning to a Bulls loss thanks to the game time and the temperature... another great scheduling failure by USF.

We should try to play these games earlier in the season and warmer / syracuse games later in the season when its colder.

:Duh

[Brad]

...another great scheduling failure by USF.

:Duh

All this time I thought it was the Big East that was responsible for scheduling..

:Duh

[Guest Scherdin]

Ha it will be typical USF, we'll beet Miami the week before and then go back on ESPN and (God I hope we don't) and stink it up again and we'll have to hear how inconsistent we are.  Who calls the ESPN2 game now?

Have to admit, I'm gonna have the SEC game on the big TV and will put the USF game on the smaller one.  

Not sure how are O will do in the cold and I hope there isn't snow or we are screwed!

[Cow Pie]

All this time I thought it was the Big East that was responsible for scheduling..

:Duh

The time slots are done by TV / Big East but I thought the schools had some control over the actual schedule as far as when in the season they play another school.

For example USF could negotiate to get Syracuse during the winter and play certain teams earlier.

[Minotaur]

awesome!