The way I define "support" for your team.

[E.T.]

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But to everything there is a season, E.T.  You know that, right?  That's from the Bible.  Ecclesiastes, to be exact.

So being balanced includes cheering and complimenting things that deserve such, and questioning and venting when things are going poorly.

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Well, you may know more scriptures from the Bible . . . so when things don't go right in your life - it's okay to curse GOD ?

And I didn't need an explanation, I understand your reasoning for saying we suck.

Now let me try to ask it again:  ;D

Do you think saying "we suck" helps ?

You seem to answer "no", it just helps YOU vent. It's okay if you don't support USF basketball, I don't ... admitting is the first step.  8-)

Do you support USF basketball or just enjoy bashing it ?

[E.T.]

bullzfan4life,

It is just as simple as that.

[Guest JulmisteForPrez]

...and you are turning it into a "I'm a better Bulls fan than you are!" discussion.

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;D How the heck did you arrive at that?  ;D

So you think saying "we suck' helps ... sad  

How the heck did I arrive at that???

How about this.....

A copout from ignorance.   It amazes me.  

Are you a season ticket holder ? Only season ticket holders' voices carry weight.

You make it seem like not having season tickets after you move out of state is somehow indicative of your standing as a fan.

Yes, yes, I know you still have yours.  But just because I don't choose to fork out a bunch of $$ for something I cannot use doesn't make me a crummy fan.  I go to a handful of away games that I can make.

[HaulingBull Sucks]

E.T. is saying that he is a better fan in this thread at all.  What he is saying is that he wants to know how saying the team "sucks" helps.  Plain and simple, what does saying "we suck" do?  It does nothing, if you want to critize the team than do it, but don't just say 'we suck" which is what E.T. is trying to say in this thread.  Critize, but don't put the team down, they are two completely different things.

That's not what he said in his original post here...If STFU dosen't mean don't say a thing that WTF does it mean?

On a public site: Cheer when you win and  [highlight][smiley=stfu.jpg] when you lose.[/highlight]

[Guest JulmisteForPrez]

No, E.T., saying we suck does not help USF basketball.

But neither does me saying, "Oh we are still good!!"

How does that help?  It's a lie, first of all.  And denial gets you nowhere.

So, since the basketball program won't be helped by me saying how great it is, at least I get something out of it by venting.

At least someone is helped!!!

[E.T.]

Only season ticket holders' voices carry weight.

Look outside the box and this little message board world.

What I am referring to is that you say you want change for the good of USF basketball, I am saying that a "fan" on a message board does nothing by bashing. A season ticket holder(actually hoards) going to the AD would carry weight and possible change.

And I do not have basketball tix. That's what this conversation is about.

I know you go to many away football games and that's great, but that's another subject. I buy lots of girl scout cookies, but that's another subject also  8-)

[flsportsfan83]

No, E.T., saying we suck does not help USF basketball.

But neither does me saying, "Oh we are still good!!"

How does that help?  It's a lie, first of all.  And denial gets you nowhere.

So, since the basketball program won't be helped by me saying how great it is, at least I get something out of it by venting.

At least someone is helped!!!

we aren't good?

[Guest JulmisteForPrez]

No, E.T., saying we suck does not help USF basketball.

But neither does me saying, "Oh we are still good!!"

How does that help?  It's a lie, first of all.  And denial gets you nowhere.

So, since the basketball program won't be helped by me saying how great it is, at least I get something out of it by venting.

At least someone is helped!!!

[highlight]we aren't good[/highlight]?

Oh......haven't you heard???  It turns out we are good after all!!

[E.T.]

FINALLY ... an answer  ;D

No, E.T., saying we suck does not help USF basketball.

But neither does me saying, "Oh we are still good!!"

How does that help?  It's a lie, first of all.  And denial gets you nowhere.

It doesn't ... and why bring that up ? I never said it.  

So, since the basketball program won't be helped by me saying how great it is, at least I get something out of it by venting.

At least someone is helped!!!

Now you're getting somewhere, admitting to being selfish is fine. Nobody is perfect.

And Hauling Bull ... the  [smiley=stfu.jpg] sign is referring to saying "we suck" ... assumed most would understand it.

[E.T.]

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[highlight]we aren't good[/highlight]?

Oh......haven't you heard???  It turns out we are good after all!!

And I thought we progressed . . .  :