Golesh > Dion

[Sk00b]

39 minutes ago, flsportsfan83 said:

Golesh is gone in 3 years of we keep winning. And thats okay.

I'm not so sure. Building something from the ground up is different than inheriting a winning team/program. He will have full control if he wins championships here and I'm sure we will find money to pay him. Then again, he may want a similar challenge at the next level. Hard to say but i bet he goes more than three years either way. 

[Triple B]

1 hour ago, Bull Matrix said:

Puc, I give you credit for already pointing this out years ago. I apologize because I was in the camp thinking our new coaching staffs need at least a few years. Now with the new era of college football where transfers are allowed to play earlier I believe new coaching staffs can win sooner which is good for everyone involved. Looks At Colorado & USF for examples. 

Years ago, there wasn't the Transfer era like today so one year turnarounds were a rarity. Willie was a perfect example of needing a few years back then ....

[Gismo]

3 hours ago, puc86 said:

How many people at Colorado are waking up this morning thinking we made a mistake we should have hired CAG? Neon took a 1-11 Colorado team playing in an empty stadium to a team competing to the wire against a national championship contender that has a Heisman trophy winning qb, in front of a packed home crowd, fox’s game day program and a national audience. We beat Navy, that’s not exactly the same thing but way better than things were.

We did that against Alabama. Give Golesh credit. 
 

 

Golesh is way more mature with much better coaching experience than Sanders.  

Sanders and his players lack of maturity is an embarrassment. 

Sanders isn’t a proven coach without his son who was a 4-star rated recruit with offers to SEC schools who went to play for his dad at Jackson State instead. Sanders has won with superior athletes, not coaching, but maybe he can win with superior recruiting only if he can get other great coaches on his staff. How does Sanders do coaching a team with a QB that he hasn’t coached since birth? He coached all of his sons high school and college teams. I’m curious to see what Sanders does when his son leaves college football. 

I’m very glad we have Golesh instead of Sanders. Also, that new coach Elmo at Duke in his second year looks like a good get, 13-5 so far at Duke, won a bowl game last year, almost beat Notre Dame this weekend. He’s got Duke winning without all of the media circus Sanders brings, although media circus can bring in money, ultimately winning is what matters. 
 

 

[Gismo]

37 minutes ago, Sk00b said:

I'm not so sure. Building something from the ground up is different than inheriting a winning team/program. He will have full control if he wins championships here and I'm sure we will find money to pay him. Then again, he may want a similar challenge at the next level. Hard to say but i bet he goes more than three years either way. 

Impossible to say. If hypothetically he puts USF in the playoffs then he may get monetary offers USF cannot match, with resources and boosters and NIL that USF cannot match. 

But then he would have to weight being able to make the playoff at USF and keep building USF or trying to do it again in a more competitive league. If winning is the goal maybe a coach might turn down money. Maybe he decides he just likes Tampa for his family and wants stability. But USF is going to have to pay him as much as we can if he succeeds here. 

I think it largely hinges on USF having a path to the playoff with a weak schedule. The AAC is weak and even going undefeated won’t earn respect towards playoff eligibility. We shouldn’t schedule any cupcake games period. We should schedule all of our out of conference games against P5 members.  

[Gismo]

2 hours ago, puc86 said:

I’ve always been firmly in the camp that when you are going the right direction in life that shows itself sooner than later and anyone that says they have to go backwards to go forwards or that you won’t see anything for years but then one day it’s going to miracle itself together is lying to you.

I believe the 1% improvements philosophy. Barely measurable at first then suddenly looking back it’s exponential. 
 

As the saying goes, you can accomplish more in a year than you think, and less in a day than you think. 

[Bull Matrix]

23 minutes ago, Triple B said:

Years ago, there wasn't the Transfer era like today so one year turnarounds were a rarity. Willie was a perfect example of needing a few years back then ....

It makes me now wonder if we would saw CWT being able to install his Stanford offense if they had those transfer rules back then. Maybe we see the pro style QB staying and not transferring to WKU. Interesting to think lol. 

[puc86]

15 minutes ago, Gismo said:

I believe the 1% improvements philosophy. Barely measurable at first then suddenly looking back it’s exponential. 
 

As the saying goes, you can accomplish more in a year than you think, and less in a day than you think. 

Yes that involves continuous improvement. You have a theory, you implement it, you measure it and then you find success and move on or tweak that. If your measurables aren’t showing improvement you aren’t actually improving you are making things up. You can’t have exponential growth if you aren’t actually growing and if your choice of what to tackle first is so negligible that after a year of 1% compounding growth no one can see it you picked the wrong things to focus on.

Edited October 1, 2023 by puc86

[puc86]

21 minutes ago, Gismo said:

We did that against Alabama. Give Golesh credit. 
 

 

Golesh is way more mature with much better coaching experience than Sanders.  

Sanders and his players lack of maturity is an embarrassment. 

Sanders isn’t a proven coach without his son who was a 4-star rated recruit with offers to SEC schools who went to play for his dad at Jackson State instead. Sanders has won with superior athletes, not coaching, but maybe he can win with superior recruiting only if he can get other great coaches on his staff. How does Sanders do coaching a team with a QB that he hasn’t coached since birth? He coached all of his sons high school and college teams. I’m curious to see what Sanders does when his son leaves college football. 

I’m very glad we have Golesh instead of Sanders. Also, that new coach Elmo at Duke in his second year looks like a good get, 13-5 so far at Duke, won a bowl game last year, almost beat Notre Dame this weekend. He’s got Duke winning without all of the media circus Sanders brings, although media circus can bring in money, ultimately winning is what matters. 
 

 

I am giving him credit but he is not a transformative figure, money and prestige are every bit as important as winning as they help you live another day. I’m not sure we should worry about any coach beyond 3 years at a time so I don’t think longevity should play too much of a determining part of the hiring process. With prime we would be in a better position today in every regard, that’s really all that matters.

[OnTheBus]

I’ve seen all I’ve needed to see from Golesh to say I was wrong to judge him so harshly as “yet another offensive coordinator”

 

Specifically, the raw emotion he showed in the postgame on-field TV interview. Genuine emotion, without a hint of performance. That’s a players coach.

At the same time, he’s so confident and composed on the sideline, and has injected life into our offense, the kind that took Willie two and a half seasons.

Team Goach. 

[Bull Matrix]

2 hours ago, flsportsfan83 said:

Golesh is gone in 3 years of we keep winning. And thats okay.

As long as USF gets their ducks in a row. Make sure they work on a coach in waiting under CAG so that they won’t miss a beat if & when GAG leaves.  If USF finds a way to do that then I believe they are set.