Important OCS Update

[Jim Johnson]

1 hour ago, Brad said:

Oddsmakers would say that in the last couple weeks our chance at obtaining "the conference we want", even generally, has decreased.  

I disagree.  Oddsmakers would say the chance has generally, if marginally, increased.

[puc86]

11 minutes ago, USF_Bullsharks said:

Didn't do any math, but for instance, the 3 teams from the AAC which earned invites to join the B12 all had/have sizable stadiums in their markets, and they each built on-campus stadiums and/or have invested heavily in renovations/upgrades. Sure it was just coincidence though. 

Yes correlation does not equal causation, can you think of no other reason besides a stadium why the B12 would have selected UC, UH and UCF over us? Two of the three have black as a school color and two of the three have red as a school color, should we change our colors to black and red to maximize our chances at being selected by the B12? What membership number do you think the B12 is going to willing to get to in order to include us once they are convinced by the creation of a 32k person stadium?

[Bull Matrix]

5 minutes ago, Jim Johnson said:

I disagree.  Oddsmakers would say the chance has generally, if marginally, increased.

Agreed! I do believe this is as close USF is to getting an invite to one of the P5  as ever before. We just need a few more dominoes to break USF’s way 

[puc86]

17 minutes ago, Jim Johnson said:

I disagree.  Oddsmakers would say the chance has generally, if marginally, increased.

 

9 minutes ago, Bull Matrix said:

Agreed! I do believe this is as close USF is to getting an invite to one of the P5  as ever before. We just need a few more dominoes to break USF’s way 

The B12 went from being the most likely to being 0%, there is never a time when being passed up and having fewer landing spots is valued as advantageous. 

[Bull Matrix]

Just now, puc86 said:

 

The B12 went from being the most likely to being 0%, there is never a time when being passed up and having fewer landing spots is valued as advantageous. 

B12 was not really going to consider USF after Harlan’s crew made those spelling errors on the application. USF has a better chance at an ACC or PAC invite imo 

[USF_Bullsharks]

18 minutes ago, puc86 said:

Yes correlation does not equal causation, can you think of no other reason besides a stadium why the B12 would have selected UC, UH and UCF over us? Two of the three have black as a school color and two of the three have red as a school color, should we change our colors to black and red to maximize our chances at being selected by the B12? What membership number do you think the B12 is going to willing to get to in order to include us once they are convinced by the creation of a 32k person stadium?

You let me know when a university tears down it's OCS because they can use another one that is off-campus. That will be the litmus test for acceptable stadiums within a short distance from campus. As far as I know, it's never happened. Only the opposite, which is despite having stadium infrastructure nearby - universities over time have all invested in their own. And USF will be no different. 

EDIT: I think SDSU might have? That might be the only case. 

Edited August 7, 2023 by USF_Bullsharks

[Bull Matrix]

Just now, Bull Matrix said:

B12 was not really going to consider USF after Harlan’s crew made those spelling errors on the application. USF has a better chance at an ACC or PAC invite imo 

PUC I hope you are one of the first to apologize to MK after he gets USF into a P5 conference 

[BDYZR]

In every scenario, even Colorado and their losing record, being aggressive seems to be paying off. Being passive, from USF and the old BE to todays PAC12, has failed miserably.

[puc86]

2 minutes ago, Bull Matrix said:

B12 was not really going to consider USF after Harlan’s crew made those spelling errors on the application. USF has a better chance at an ACC or PAC invite imo 

The spelling errors were meant to demonstrate that we could actually be a good cultural fit despite the on paper disparities, code switching if you will.

[Bull Matrix]

13 minutes ago, puc86 said:

The spelling errors were meant to demonstrate that we could actually be a good cultural fit despite the on paper disparities, code switching if you will.

Lol good one.