USF players and the Transfer Portal

[Who'sYourData?]

1 hour ago, Triple B said:

Unless I'm missing something, we're not being "bitter every time a player leaves". We fully understand why they'd want to go somewhere else. The ones catching the grief are primarily the ones perceived as quitting on their teammates. You don't have a problem with that, fine, but some do ....

Here's my problem.  People bashing others based upon assumptions and innuendo.  No one bashing this kid (yes, 22 is a kid) has any real idea whether he quit or not.  But people love to pass judgement on kids...

“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise."

  ~ Socrates, 5th century

[SilverBull]

2 minutes ago, Who'sYourData? said:

“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise."

As true today as always.  Welcome to entropy of the human condition.

[Who'sYourData?]

12 minutes ago, SilverBull said:

As true today as always.  Welcome to entropy of the human condition.

Yet they always manage to turn out ok.  Almost like as adults get older they forget they were also hooligans when they were young.

[Gatorbull325]

29 minutes ago, ForestBull said:

Well the players have a big part in us being a hot mess...

Not this player. How many times we lost due to bad play calling by the coaches? We have 5 players that transferred to P5 programs, 1 player to a very good James Madison team that could possibly make a NY6 bowl game next year and Weaver will probably the 6th player to transfer to a P5 school. So we had talent, our past 2 coaches just failed. 

[SilverBull]

12 minutes ago, Who'sYourData? said:

Yet they always manage to turn out ok

But do they?

[Triple B]

41 minutes ago, Who'sYourData? said:

Here's my problem.  People bashing others based upon assumptions and innuendo.

I completely get that and I never bash on assumptions/innuendo ....

[Who'sYourData?]

34 minutes ago, SilverBull said:

But do they?

Well, except for Trip maybe.  

Edited December 29, 2022 by Who'sYourData?

[olafberserker]

2 hours ago, Gatorbull325 said:

The team was 1-11 with a "dead man walking" coaching staff. Football believe it or not is a dangerous game in which you can lose your life or ability to walk. If we were trying to make a bowl game and these players quit on us, I could see the point in being upset. But this program was a hot mess so why risk injury. In the end, we finally got to see what Sean Atkins and the other WRs can do and I'm fine with who we have and will pick up in the transfer portal. 

Most didn't quit ... he did .... 

[Outlaw]

1 hour ago, ForestBull said:

Well the players have a big part in us being a hot mess...

This is true. The defense, the ability of coaching staff to build the players up, recruiting, and  the ability to coach kids up and mold them into a winning mentality was the biggest issues in my mind. The players were just having fun on the sidelines and not taking it serious at times it seemed. IF you look at winning programs they are serious and have fun in big moments like touchdowns, turnovers, big stops, and let loose after the DUB ( win )

 

2 hours ago, Gatorbull325 said:

The team was 1-11 with a "dead man walking" coaching staff. Football believe it or not is a dangerous game in which you can lose your life or ability to walk. If we were trying to make a bowl game and these players quit on us, I could see the point in being upset. But this program was a hot mess so why risk injury. In the end, we finally got to see what Sean Atkins and the other WRs can do and I'm fine with who we have and will pick up in the transfer portal. 

I understand they want to win, but he kind of quit of the team it appears last season like Grier. We do not know if there were issues going on. If Weaver and Grier played and gave it their all we may have won ONE or more FBS games last season. If they can go find a better squad and more NIL money then I am all for it. I hope they don't quit on their new teammates and coaches. I want guys that are all in when they are starters and will do whatever it takes to win. Not sit on the sideline when times get tough. The more of the players from the last 3 year years move on the more new blood to mold into winners. 

Edited December 29, 2022 by Outlaw

[Friscobull]

2 hours ago, Gatorbull325 said:

Having kids in college they are still my babies and I assume these kids are somebody else's babies. Stop being a jilted ex-girlfriend man. Weaver was our best receiver. Players come and go, that is how the game goes. The Gators and Texas A&M have like 25 players in the portal. These schools have great NIL set ups, but players want to simply play and that's cool. We are one our 3rd coach, 3rd OC in like 5 years. If I was an older player I would be exhausted of being part of a rebuilding team. At minimum I would go to a P5 if I wanted to be a part of a rebuilding team during my senior season. It's time for us to stop being so bitter every time a player leaves. We are better than that. 

Once again you completely missed the point, said nothing negative about him, just stated facts. He has every right to leave, that is his decision.  I just fail to applaud these kids decision and root for them at their new homes and start a thread in the future saying look at X, he caught a TD for Georgia Tech or some other team.  You can continue to give them a reach around every chance you get, I will pass and simply remember him as a pretty good receiver on an awful team that had a bad case of the drops and quit on his team in mid season and I really don’t care where he ends up.  You do you and continue to root for the kids that quit mid year and transfer off to greener pastures, treating these kids like babies is part of the reason they struggle to enter adulthood after college.