Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

[Sellular1]

So will Notre Dame get a P5 spot or the G5 spot now that it's been a ruled that they don't need to be in a conference to make the playoffs per the playoff committee.

Not exactly sure what you mean ... There is no P5 or G5 "spot" in the playoffs that I know of. Am I missing something?

Playoffs are for the top 4 teams as determined by the Playoff Committee. individual conferences have determined which Independent teams they consider as "P5" teams when it comes to scheduling OOC games. All conferences have agreed ND and BYU count as P5 while the SEC have also included Army as a P5 school for OOC games.

The highest ranked team from the G5 conferences is guartenteed a spot in a "BCS/Access" type bowl (Orange, Sugar, Rose, Fiesta, Cotton, Peach) but that has nothing to do with the 4 team playoffs.

 

I had forgotten about that. Smooth move by the SEC classifying all the FBS Independents as P5 so Army can be used to fill that one P5 ooc game need ....

 

Maybe it's time for USF to go indie now ... 

 

The ACC originally decided BYU would not count but changed their position when the other conferences agreed to count them. Now that the almighty SEC has accepted Army, the ACC is reconsidering them as well even though Army hasn't had a WINNING SEASON in 17 years. Boise St fans have been talking about going independent (message boards and crap, obviously nothing official) as a way play more P5 games including an annual matchup with BYU that could create an interesting rivalry that the Big12 would want.

[Brad]

So will Notre Dame get a P5 spot or the G5 spot now that it's been a ruled that they don't need to be in a conference to make the playoffs per the playoff committee.

Not exactly sure what you mean ... There is no P5 or G5 "spot" in the playoffs that I know of. Am I missing something?

Playoffs are for the top 4 teams as determined by the Playoff Committee. individual conferences have determined which Independent teams they consider as "P5" teams when it comes to scheduling OOC games. All conferences have agreed ND and BYU count as P5 while the SEC have also included Army as a P5 school for OOC games.

The highest ranked team from the G5 conferences is guartenteed a spot in a "BCS/Access" type bowl (Orange, Sugar, Rose, Fiesta, Cotton, Peach) but that has nothing to do with the 4 team playoffs.

I had forgotten about that. Smooth move by the SEC classifying all the FBS Independents as P5 so Army can be used to fill that one P5 ooc game need ....

Maybe it's time for USF to go indie now ...

CarolinaBull just gave a fist pump ...

Me too.

[Sellular1]

Jeremy Brevard-USA TODAY Sports

The recent announcement that North Carolina and Wake Forest will play a non-conference home-and-home series in 2019 and 2021 is more than an oddity that calls into question ACC scheduling practices.

It is a step towards the era of a super-division in college football.

Think about it this way, if two power-conference teams from the same league can play each other and call it a “non-conference†game, what’s the use of having an FBS with 10 leagues?

Since it’s a sure thing that teams from the American, C-USA, MAC, Mountain West and Sun Belt won’t ever play in the CFB Playoff, the real upside of retaining a tie with the Power-Fives is to create non-league scheduling opportunities.

But, if Power-Five programs can fill their non-league schedules with teams from their own conference, why continue pretending like the FBS is 128 teams all playing for the same prize?

Is it any coincidence that the first-ever, Power-Five non-conference game between two teams from the same league is slated between North Carolina—a team that has been to a bowl game five of the last six years—and Wake Forest, a program that has been to one postseason game in the same time frame?

Sure, the Tar Heels and Demon Deacons have been playing each other since 1888, and met almost consecutively until 2007, but is this really about protecting a rivalry?

While they are long-time, in-state opponents, the upside for North Carolina is its 68-35-2 all-time advantage over Wake.

It’s like allowing USC to schedule Washington State as a non-Pac-12 game. The Trojans have beaten the Cougars nine of the last ten times and are 58-9-4 all-time vs. Washington State.

On the flip side, would Florida State schedule Virginia Tech as a non-ACC opponent? Or would Nebraska ring up Michigan State for a non-Big Ten date?

What will likely precede a super-division is the era of the super-conference, when the five present Power-Fives meld into four bigger conferences with multiple divisions.

This may start with the Big 12, the now validated fifth wheel in a four-team Playoff bracket, being sold off, piece-by-piece, to the highest bidder from the four remaining power conferences.

Again, the concept of a super-conference is easier to sell if members can play each other and call it a “non-conference†game. This will be especially true at the beginning, when teams need to fulfill the quota of one Power-Five, non-conference game each season.

If there are only three other power conferences, the pickings get quite slim, and programs like Kansas, Indiana and Kentucky will have their dance cards filled out for years to come.

So, why not call up one of the weaker links in your own conference, especially one from another division that is rarely played because of the scheduling challenges inherent to a league with 16-plus members?

Regardless of how ridiculous it sounds, it would be counted as a Power-Five, non-conference game.

It’s why the North Carolina-Wake Forest non-ACC is game is so important: It sets the precedent for the technique and it validates the practice.

Eventually the era of the super-conference, along with the growing call for paying the full cost of attendance, will highlight the dividing line between the haves and the have-nots in the FBS. Not only are the 128 teams not playing for the same championship, they can’t afford to play by the same rules.

This leads to the split of the FBS: The super conferences break away and form Division IV and what’s left of the American, C-USA, MAC, Mountain West and Sun Belt stay in the new-look Division I-A (FBS) and begin playing for their own true title.

The new world of Division IV includes a scheduling requirement that dictates that each team can play only one non-conference game (that counts) against a lower-level program. This gets filled by a Division I-A (new-look FBS) team and means the end of the Power-Five-FCS matchups.

Again, the result is the same: The remainder of the non-league slate (which has been slashed by cutting league membership in half) has to be filled with something.

And since UNC-Wake Forest established the practice of scheduling fellow-league members as non-conference opponents—Voilà! It’s done, just fill the open slots with teams from your own conference.

Though the Tar Heels-Demon Deacons, non-ACC series may not do anything more than raise a few eye brows in 2015, by 2025 it may have been a significant underlying factor in the new-look of major college football.

[Triple B]

^^^   Link? (I tried but couldn't find it)

[Roaming Bull]

Jeremy Brevard-USA TODAY Sports

The recent announcement that North Carolina and Wake Forest will play a non-conference home-and-home series in 2019 and 2021 is more than an oddity that calls into question ACC scheduling practices.

It is a step towards the era of a super-division in college football.

Think about it this way, if two power-conference teams from the same league can play each other and call it a “non-conference†game, what’s the use of having an FBS with 10 leagues?

Since it’s a sure thing that teams from the American, C-USA, MAC, Mountain West and Sun Belt won’t ever play in the CFB Playoff, the real upside of retaining a tie with the Power-Fives is to create non-league scheduling opportunities.

But, if Power-Five programs can fill their non-league schedules with teams from their own conference, why continue pretending like the FBS is 128 teams all playing for the same prize?

Is it any coincidence that the first-ever, Power-Five non-conference game between two teams from the same league is slated between North Carolina—a team that has been to a bowl game five of the last six years—and Wake Forest, a program that has been to one postseason game in the same time frame?

Sure, the Tar Heels and Demon Deacons have been playing each other since 1888, and met almost consecutively until 2007, but is this really about protecting a rivalry?

While they are long-time, in-state opponents, the upside for North Carolina is its 68-35-2 all-time advantage over Wake.

It’s like allowing USC to schedule Washington State as a non-Pac-12 game. The Trojans have beaten the Cougars nine of the last ten times and are 58-9-4 all-time vs. Washington State.

On the flip side, would Florida State schedule Virginia Tech as a non-ACC opponent? Or would Nebraska ring up Michigan State for a non-Big Ten date?

What will likely precede a super-division is the era of the super-conference, when the five present Power-Fives meld into four bigger conferences with multiple divisions.

This may start with the Big 12, the now validated fifth wheel in a four-team Playoff bracket, being sold off, piece-by-piece, to the highest bidder from the four remaining power conferences.

Again, the concept of a super-conference is easier to sell if members can play each other and call it a “non-conference†game. This will be especially true at the beginning, when teams need to fulfill the quota of one Power-Five, non-conference game each season.

If there are only three other power conferences, the pickings get quite slim, and programs like Kansas, Indiana and Kentucky will have their dance cards filled out for years to come.

So, why not call up one of the weaker links in your own conference, especially one from another division that is rarely played because of the scheduling challenges inherent to a league with 16-plus members?

Regardless of how ridiculous it sounds, it would be counted as a Power-Five, non-conference game.

It’s why the North Carolina-Wake Forest non-ACC is game is so important: It sets the precedent for the technique and it validates the practice.

Eventually the era of the super-conference, along with the growing call for paying the full cost of attendance, will highlight the dividing line between the haves and the have-nots in the FBS. Not only are the 128 teams not playing for the same championship, they can’t afford to play by the same rules.

This leads to the split of the FBS: The super conferences break away and form Division IV and what’s left of the American, C-USA, MAC, Mountain West and Sun Belt stay in the new-look Division I-A (FBS) and begin playing for their own true title.

The new world of Division IV includes a scheduling requirement that dictates that each team can play only one non-conference game (that counts) against a lower-level program. This gets filled by a Division I-A (new-look FBS) team and means the end of the Power-Five-FCS matchups.

Again, the result is the same: The remainder of the non-league slate (which has been slashed by cutting league membership in half) has to be filled with something.

And since UNC-Wake Forest established the practice of scheduling fellow-league members as non-conference opponents—Voilà! It’s done, just fill the open slots with teams from your own conference.

Though the Tar Heels-Demon Deacons, non-ACC series may not do anything more than raise a few eye brows in 2015, by 2025 it may have been a significant underlying factor in the new-look of major college football.

Are they predicting that all non-P5 teams will fold by 2025?

[GoBulls84]

Not sure how much insight or anything like that this guy has, but this dude Pete Fiutak from campusinsiders.com and collegefootballnews.com was on the local ESPN affiliate out of Fort Myers and said the Big 12 needs to hurry up and grab USF and UCF and steal the entire I-4 corridor.

 

For whatever that's worth (likely not much more than anything else that's been in this thread)

[slick1ru2]

Yeah think that's bull what the ACC is doing with the North Carolina teams, saying that they're out of conference because not in the same division. The NCAA needs to step in for once.

[BayIslandBull]

College football is in a death spiral ...

[Triple B]

Yeah think that's bull what the ACC is doing with the North Carolina teams, saying that they're out of conference because not in the same division. The NCAA needs to step in for once.

 

I haven't been able to find where UNC or Wake have any plans to call that their required ooc P5 game, and even if they do, I'm not sure I see the big deal .... especially under the current circumstances.

[Triple B]

College football is in a death spiral ...

 

Dare we say, plummeting?