Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

[Who'sYourData?]

Another factor working against USF, as far as butts in seats are concerned, is having the Bucs, Lightning, Rays, and Rowdies competing for our sports entertainment dollars.

 

Hold up.   Did you really put the Rowdies in this conversation?

 

Edited July 8, 2015 by ShadowBull

[JTrue]

Another factor working against USF, as far as butts in seats are concerned, is having the Bucs, Lightning, Rays, and Rowdies competing for our sports entertainment dollars.

Hold up. Did you really put the Rowdies in this conversation?

Yep. Minor league soccer that is played in St. Pete during football's offseason.

Edit: Looks like some heavy Saturday crossover in the fall poised to steal our attendance.

Edited July 8, 2015 by JTrue

[Brad]

I don't think the criteria that guided the last wave of expansion will guide the next.

For example, Rutgers, as ****** as they are as humans, still owned the NY/NJ TV market. Pitt has a following and a history. Louisville owned the town.

What's left is not much.

It's going to take supreme desperation to add any of the rest. And when they do, TVs won't matter, neither will girls basketball or softball. It will be a speculative bid on who could become something, and that may be too big a risk to take. Either way, you better be competitive and you better have some fans. TV doesn't matter if all you see are red empty seats, except when the Seminoles are in town.

Long, long way to go to be in the discussion.

TV won't matter?

TV is the only thing that matters. Well, not really. But very nearly. Aren't Cincy and USF the biggest TV markets left unaccounted for?

Per Nielsen , it's Houston @ 10 and us at @13 of the names that have been thrown around. Cincy is lower than Hartford ...

That is surprising. Nobody will argue the TV market size for Tampa. It is really more does that translate into viewers for USF or are they still going to watch the other Florida schools?

That argument is silly. Only die-hards will tune in to watch USF play (Memphis, Tulsa, Tulane, ECU, SMU, Temple [pick one]). USF will easily carry the market playing B12 teams.

That isn't my point. Right now our TV market is dominated by people watching Gator, Noles, and Hurricane games. The question is when USF plays at Texas does it draw TV viewership to that game or does it stick where it currently is? The TV market size doesn't matter if the market is watching another game. You say USF will easily carry the market playing B12 teams. So if we play at the same time as UF you really think the Tampa numbers favor our game?? I really hope you are right. I just don't see it.

This concern has been surfaced here now three times. No doubt it goes into the equation. And Big 12 writers have ensured it's a topic in their discussions.

[Dogma]

 

 

 

 

 

 

This thread is hilarious.

For years, this board has been saying a UCF&USF package deal.

Now, everyone has accepted truth. USF will be left behind, because they made the right moves too late.

TCU did it right, and UCF has built a strong resume.

Expansion is not ONLY about football... so what else does UCF have?

It's about revenue and TV markets... and football is the biggest driver.

Typical of USF fans to down play success in a sport - in which they struggle.

 

 

Now it's "they"?

 

 

Bears aren't Bulls

 

 

Bears eat beets.

 

fact

 

 

[Apis Bull]

So after 400+ pages, here's what I've learned:  The Big 12 may or may not expand and if they do, it may be soon or not.  Also, we may or may not be a candidate for expansion with UCF, without UCF, before UCF or after UCF.  Oh, and if we get AAU status we may or may not be invited to the Big Ten.  Does that about sum it up?

[2000bull]

So after 400+ pages, here's what I've learned:  The Big 12 may or may not expand and if they do, it may be soon or not.  Also, we may or may not be a candidate for expansion with UCF, without UCF, before UCF or after UCF.  Oh, and if we get AAU status we may or may not be invited to the Big Ten.  Does that about sum it up?

and newenglandbull hates publix discussions

[bullsfan27]

I don't think the criteria that guided the last wave of expansion will guide the next.

For example, Rutgers, as ****** as they are as humans, still owned the NY/NJ TV market. Pitt has a following and a history. Louisville owned the town.

What's left is not much.

It's going to take supreme desperation to add any of the rest. And when they do, TVs won't matter, neither will girls basketball or softball. It will be a speculative bid on who could become something, and that may be too big a risk to take. Either way, you better be competitive and you better have some fans. TV doesn't matter if all you see are red empty seats, except when the Seminoles are in town.

Long, long way to go to be in the discussion.

TV won't matter?

TV is the only thing that matters. Well, not really. But very nearly. Aren't Cincy and USF the biggest TV markets left unaccounted for?

Per Nielsen , it's Houston @ 10 and us at @13 of the names that have been thrown around. Cincy is lower than Hartford ...

That is surprising. Nobody will argue the TV market size for Tampa. It is really more does that translate into viewers for USF or are they still going to watch the other Florida schools?

That argument is silly. Only die-hards will tune in to watch USF play (Memphis, Tulsa, Tulane, ECU, SMU, Temple [pick one]). USF will easily carry the market playing B12 teams.

Playing the big 12 opponents will only help if we are winning. Right now if u put us in the big 12 we might sell more tickets with Oklahoma, Texas, or wvu playing here but that would only be a year or two fix before fans don't show up again cause the team is losing all the time. So let's get the program turned around whether that is Taggart leading or someone else and put a good product on the field. Then we will be able to carry the Tampa market

But even if we start winning, are people really going to turn out in droves for that big Temple game?

They won't for anyone in our conference but they would for Oklahoma or Texas or wvu

[JTrue]

So after 400+ pages, here's what I've learned: The Big 12 may or may not expand and if they do, it may be soon or not. Also, we may or may not be a candidate for expansion with UCF, without UCF, before UCF or after UCF. Oh, and if we get AAU status we may or may not be invited to the Big Ten. Does that about sum it up?

and newenglandbull hates publix discussions

He especially hates them when they're in threads labeled "Publix"

[NewEnglandBull]

So after 400+ pages, here's what I've learned: The Big 12 may or may not expand and if they do, it may be soon or not. Also, we may or may not be a candidate for expansion with UCF, without UCF, before UCF or after UCF. Oh, and if we get AAU status we may or may not be invited to the Big Ten. Does that about sum it up?

and newenglandbull hates publix discussions

BAM!

[NewEnglandBull]

So after 400+ pages, here's what I've learned: The Big 12 may or may not expand and if they do, it may be soon or not. Also, we may or may not be a candidate for expansion with UCF, without UCF, before UCF or after UCF. Oh, and if we get AAU status we may or may not be invited to the Big Ten. Does that about sum it up?

and newenglandbull hates publix discussions

He especially hates them when they're in threads labeled "Publix"

Double BAM!