Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

[BayIslandBull]

UCF is in the same boat we are in. Their fanbase has proven themselves to be just as fickle as ours, if not more. Just look at their piss poor ticket sales to the biggest game in their program's history. They returned 10k unsold tickets. That is more of a warning flag to anyone considering them as an expansion candidate, than 1 good season. Once our football team gets some momentum, things will be back in order. They dropped off big time when Bortles left, now their best receivers are gone along with the heart of their defense (the safety, whatever his name is).In my opinion, the gap between our two teams is marginal in their current states, and both looking at just being bowl eligible.

[jjlovecub]

I don't think the criteria that guided the last wave of expansion will guide the next.

For example, Rutgers, as ****** as they are as humans, still owned the NY/NJ TV market. Pitt has a following and a history. Louisville owned the town.

What's left is not much.

It's going to take supreme desperation to add any of the rest. And when they do, TVs won't matter, neither will girls basketball or softball. It will be a speculative bid on who could become something, and that may be too big a risk to take. Either way, you better be competitive and you better have some fans. TV doesn't matter if all you see are red empty seats, except when the Seminoles are in town.

Long, long way to go to be in the discussion.

TV won't matter?

TV is the only thing that matters. Well, not really. But very nearly. Aren't Cincy and USF the biggest TV markets left unaccounted for?

Per Nielsen , it's Houston @ 10 and us at @13 of the names that have been thrown around. Cincy is lower than Hartford ...

That is surprising. Nobody will argue the TV market size for Tampa. It is really more does that translate into viewers for USF or are they still going to watch the other Florida schools?

[jjlovecub]

UCF is in the same boat we are in. Their fanbase has proven themselves to be just as fickle as ours, if not more. Just look at their piss poor ticket sales to the biggest game in their program's history. They returned 10k unsold tickets. That is more of a warning flag to anyone considering them as an expansion candidate, than 1 good season. Once our football team gets some momentum, things will be back in order. They dropped off big time when Bortles left, now their best receivers are gone along with the heart of their defense (the safety, whatever his name is).In my opinion, the gap between our two teams is marginal in their current states, and both looking at just being bowl eligible.

I agree with you but we need to boost our ticket sales too and when we make a bowl game next we need to sell out our allotment wherever it may be!

[JTrue]

Literally, the only thing UCF can claim they have an advantage is their football team the last few years. I feel like we circle this point every few pages. Oh, and Facebook "likes" when doing serious pre-expansion polling.

[Bull Martin]

 

 

 

I don't think the criteria that guided the last wave of expansion will guide the next.

For example, Rutgers, as ****** as they are as humans, still owned the NY/NJ TV market. Pitt has a following and a history. Louisville owned the town.

What's left is not much.

It's going to take supreme desperation to add any of the rest. And when they do, TVs won't matter, neither will girls basketball or softball. It will be a speculative bid on who could become something, and that may be too big a risk to take. Either way, you better be competitive and you better have some fans. TV doesn't matter if all you see are red empty seats, except when the Seminoles are in town.

Long, long way to go to be in the discussion.

TV won't matter?

TV is the only thing that matters. Well, not really. But very nearly. Aren't Cincy and USF the biggest TV markets left unaccounted for?

Per Nielsen , it's Houston @ 10 and us at @13 of the names that have been thrown around. Cincy is lower than Hartford ...

That is surprising. Nobody will argue the TV market size for Tampa. It is really more does that translate into viewers for USF or are they still going to watch the other Florida schools?

 

 

That argument is silly.  Only die-hards will tune in to watch USF play (Memphis, Tulsa, Tulane, ECU, SMU, Temple [pick one]).  USF will easily carry the market playing B12 teams.  

[bullsfan27]

I don't think the criteria that guided the last wave of expansion will guide the next.

For example, Rutgers, as ****** as they are as humans, still owned the NY/NJ TV market. Pitt has a following and a history. Louisville owned the town.

What's left is not much.

It's going to take supreme desperation to add any of the rest. And when they do, TVs won't matter, neither will girls basketball or softball. It will be a speculative bid on who could become something, and that may be too big a risk to take. Either way, you better be competitive and you better have some fans. TV doesn't matter if all you see are red empty seats, except when the Seminoles are in town.

Long, long way to go to be in the discussion.

TV won't matter?

TV is the only thing that matters. Well, not really. But very nearly. Aren't Cincy and USF the biggest TV markets left unaccounted for?

Per Nielsen , it's Houston @ 10 and us at @13 of the names that have been thrown around. Cincy is lower than Hartford ...

That is surprising. Nobody will argue the TV market size for Tampa. It is really more does that translate into viewers for USF or are they still going to watch the other Florida schools?

That argument is silly. Only die-hards will tune in to watch USF play (Memphis, Tulsa, Tulane, ECU, SMU, Temple [pick one]). USF will easily carry the market playing B12 teams.

Playing the big 12 opponents will only help if we are winning. Right now if u put us in the big 12 we might sell more tickets with Oklahoma, Texas, or wvu playing here but that would only be a year or two fix before fans don't show up again cause the team is losing all the time. So let's get the program turned around whether that is Taggart leading or someone else and put a good product on the field. Then we will be able to carry the Tampa market

[Rocky Style]

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[Rocky Style]

I don't think the criteria that guided the last wave of expansion will guide the next.

For example, Rutgers, as ****** as they are as humans, still owned the NY/NJ TV market. Pitt has a following and a history. Louisville owned the town.

What's left is not much.

It's going to take supreme desperation to add any of the rest. And when they do, TVs won't matter, neither will girls basketball or softball. It will be a speculative bid on who could become something, and that may be too big a risk to take. Either way, you better be competitive and you better have some fans. TV doesn't matter if all you see are red empty seats, except when the Seminoles are in town.

Long, long way to go to be in the discussion.

TV won't matter?

TV is the only thing that matters. Well, not really. But very nearly. Aren't Cincy and USF the biggest TV markets left unaccounted for?

Per Nielsen , it's Houston @ 10 and us at @13 of the names that have been thrown around. Cincy is lower than Hartford ...

That is surprising. Nobody will argue the TV market size for Tampa. It is really more does that translate into viewers for USF or are they still going to watch the other Florida schools?

That argument is silly. Only die-hards will tune in to watch USF play (Memphis, Tulsa, Tulane, ECU, SMU, Temple [pick one]). USF will easily carry the market playing B12 teams.

Playing the big 12 opponents will only help if we are winning. Right now if u put us in the big 12 we might sell more tickets with Oklahoma, Texas, or wvu playing here but that would only be a year or two fix before fans don't show up again cause the team is losing all the time. So let's get the program turned around whether that is Taggart leading or someone else and put a good product on the field. Then we will be able to carry the Tampa market

But even if we start winning, are people really going to turn out in droves for that big Temple game?

[Who'sYourData?]

 

 

I don't think the criteria that guided the last wave of expansion will guide the next.

 

For example, Rutgers, as ****** as they are as humans, still owned the NY/NJ TV market.  Pitt has a following and a history.  Louisville owned the town.

 

What's left is not much.

 

It's going to take supreme desperation to add any of the rest.  And when they do, TVs won't matter, neither will girls basketball or softball.  It will be a speculative bid on who could become something, and that may be too big a risk to take.  Either way, you better be competitive and you better have some fans.  TV doesn't matter if all you see are red empty seats, except when the Seminoles are in town.

 

Long, long way to go to be in the discussion.

 

 

TV won't matter?

 

TV is the only thing that matters.  Well, not really.  But very nearly.  Aren't Cincy and USF the biggest TV markets left unaccounted for?

 

 

Per Nielsen , it's Houston @ 10 and us at @13 of the names that have been thrown around. Cincy is lower than Hartford ...

 

 

I can live with that.  But the larger Ohio audience has far less competition than the Texas audience which is saturated with P5 teams.  So there may be a bigger net gain there.  In any event, that puts us squarely in the conversation.

Edited July 8, 2015 by ShadowBull

[jjlovecub]

I don't think the criteria that guided the last wave of expansion will guide the next.

For example, Rutgers, as ****** as they are as humans, still owned the NY/NJ TV market. Pitt has a following and a history. Louisville owned the town.

What's left is not much.

It's going to take supreme desperation to add any of the rest. And when they do, TVs won't matter, neither will girls basketball or softball. It will be a speculative bid on who could become something, and that may be too big a risk to take. Either way, you better be competitive and you better have some fans. TV doesn't matter if all you see are red empty seats, except when the Seminoles are in town.

Long, long way to go to be in the discussion.

TV won't matter?

TV is the only thing that matters. Well, not really. But very nearly. Aren't Cincy and USF the biggest TV markets left unaccounted for?

Per Nielsen , it's Houston @ 10 and us at @13 of the names that have been thrown around. Cincy is lower than Hartford ...

That is surprising. Nobody will argue the TV market size for Tampa. It is really more does that translate into viewers for USF or are they still going to watch the other Florida schools?

That argument is silly. Only die-hards will tune in to watch USF play (Memphis, Tulsa, Tulane, ECU, SMU, Temple [pick one]). USF will easily carry the market playing B12 teams.

That isn't my point. Right now our TV market is dominated by people watching Gator, Noles, and Hurricane games. The question is when USF plays at Texas does it draw TV viewership to that game or does it stick where it currently is? The TV market size doesn't matter if the market is watching another game. You say USF will easily carry the market playing B12 teams. So if we play at the same time as UF you really think the Tampa numbers favor our game?? I really hope you are right. I just don't see it.