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Someone has to pick up USF we could be the Vandy of the ACC or Big 12, right?

Vandy would destroy us...

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Expansion Option A and the Florida Angle

If the membership drops to 11 schools, Swofford and the league should invite Connecticut, Louisville, USF and UCF. That gets you to 15 members and accomplishes a lot. We can talk about the football and basketball reasons why UConn and Louisville make sense and we can talk about their television markets and history and most would not need to be sold. But USF and UCF? Yes, USF and UCF.

The two schools combine to deliver 3.3 million TV homes, which would make it the 4th largest market in the country. They offer a combined student enrollment of 105,000. Over the next 20 years they will produce more alumni than anyone else in the country. They generate huge student athletic fees to the tune of almost $30 million per year. Both schools offer tremendous facilities that are better than most current ACC programs. Plus, they offer the pipeline to Florida’s recruiting pool for all sports. Both Tampa and Orlando do not rely on the success of their universities for their economic existence but are major employers and civic leaders of their communities.

The national media will rip the thought of adding USF and UCF, although more ripping would be to UCF because the school is not part of a current BCS league. UCF is the second largest university in the nation and this is not about a short term view, but a long term view. Where will USF and UCF be in 20 years?

They will never pass Wake Forest in its tradition because it was founded in 1834. But as far as the intangibles conferences are seeking these days for potential members, there is no debate. The two Florida schools offer much more.

If you’re thinking why add USF and UCF when Florida State and Miami are already in the league? Great question to ask, but you are assuming Florida State stays(more on that later) and Miami does not deliver any market outside of south Florida and even that can be questioned based on fan support in such a pro heavy town. USF and UCF strengthen the Florida market. It brings in a new set of fans to follow all ACC teams, not just FSU fans. Trust me, a USF or UCF fan is not interested in that Wake Forest-NC State football game. But if it impacted their team, that’s a different story.

Why not just add USF, why add both? The ACC may be thinking this. But why pass up the Orlando market and why pass up a natural rivalry? In fact, the state of Florida should be proactive and make sure if the ACC wants one, you have to take both(which Virginia Tech might want to demand if the Big Ten comes a calling for Virginia). The state of Florida, or any state legislature, has an obligation to make sure its schools maximize their revenue potential since state dollars are involved here.

What about the AAU factor in USF and UCF? What about it? The schools are so young compared to the members of the AAU fraternity it’s a silly complaint. In addition, the ACC and all conferences are an athletic league, not an academic league. USF and UCF leaders don’t care if you don’t invite them to afternoon tea to talk about ancient socialism in 16th century Asia. Most of the school presidents at that tea gathering are serving top shelf liquor in their box at the football stadium to big boosters who don’t care about your AAU membership but care about winning football games.

Guy's a UCiFer, not a lot of credibility IMHO. But I like his angle.

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Someone has to pick up USF we could be the Vandy of the ACC or Big 12, right?

Vandy would destroy us...

Hahahaha yes sir.

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Someone has to pick up USF we could be the Vandy of the ACC or Big 12, right?

Vandy would destroy us...

Christ.... could you imagine Grady's tweets? :popcorn:

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Beat of sports is out of Orlanda. I have seen their twitter pushing USF UCF pairing since day 1. I think they are UCF homers. That said, I do thinK USF-UCF combo would be good for picking up a rivalry, but not worth taking both teams unless you don't have any teams in FL (big 12).

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Could we petition to remain in the BE in basketball and play football in C-DOA? I don't want to lose the basketball progress we are making (its the only thing we have left) and an A-10 remaining BE conference should be

exciting!

I agree.

UConn, Louisville, probably Cincinnati, and possibly even Temple later on, are likely to leave to a "Power 5" conference. If the Big East dissolves, with that in mind, we should do the best we can to stay with the basketball schools.

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The BE BBall schools would want nothing to do with us, if there is no UConn, UC, UL. That's the whole reason for dissolving the conference if it was to happen. OR. . . is this a ploy to allow GTown/SJU and maybe Nova to break free of PC/SHU and join a hybrid ACC (with ND already on board for now) with no strings attached?

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Someone has to pick up USF we could be the Vandy of the ACC or Big 12, right?

Please tell me you were just kidding.

#17 vs. #170? Really?

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/vanderbilt-university-3535

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/usf-1537

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If the BE is dissolved by mutual consent of the members. nobody pays any exit penalties - THAT's what this is about.

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For the sake of argument, why would the basketball teams want to vote to disband? If all or most of the football schools pick up and leave, the basketball schools get a windfall of exit fees and then let the few remaining schools go with no penalty.

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