Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

[Mike Stuben]

 

 

 

I still think the AAC and the MWC merge and finally do the Areseco thing, like I've been hoping.

 

If there is scuttlebutt about the P5 becoming the P4 eventually, wouldn't it stand to reason the two conferences merged would (could) become the "fifth" conference? As unrealistic as it seems now, I'd still like to see the AAC and MWC merge and form their own division.

 

For those who care about being on the "inside", I think the two conferences merged together might be the last chance to get on the boat.

 

I hope the AAC and MWC come to their senses, merge and form one conference. 

 

 

I sort of agree with your example, but it can't be all of the AAC and MWC. There is no place for Tulane at the big boys table. Now if you made a conference out of the "best of the rest" it might be able to talk about deserving a seat at the table.

 

 

It depends how many teams are needed to keep up I think, Mike. Currently, there are 12 teams in the WMC and 10 in the AAC. 16 is the magic number everyone is talking about now is talking about now, right?

 

Playing musical chairs, looking at the teams available, what do you think a "super" AAC & MWC conference should look like?

 

- USF

- UCF

- Air Force

- Colorado St.

- Boise

- Fresno

- San Diego

- Cincy

- UCONN

- Houston

- SMU

- Navy

- Memphis

- Temple

- ECU

- Tulsa

 

I could live with this conference

 

Replace one with BYU and it might be a **** good conference. Take Colorado St out?

West:

- Air Force

- BYU

- Boise

- Fresno

- San Diego

- Houston

- SMU

- Tulsa

East

- USF

- UCF

- Cincy

- UCONN

- Navy

- Memphis

- Temple

- ECU

 

Not too bad...

 

 

What is nice about this league, is that it can be all sports .... where you play your division 80-90% of the time. Thus, travel costs aren't outrageous.

[TyBull]

Where are New Mexico & Wyoming?

are they rejected from the merger?

 

?Speculation?

[BaltoBull]

 

 

 

 

I still think the AAC and the MWC merge and finally do the Areseco thing, like I've been hoping.

 

If there is scuttlebutt about the P5 becoming the P4 eventually, wouldn't it stand to reason the two conferences merged would (could) become the "fifth" conference? As unrealistic as it seems now, I'd still like to see the AAC and MWC merge and form their own division.

 

For those who care about being on the "inside", I think the two conferences merged together might be the last chance to get on the boat.

 

I hope the AAC and MWC come to their senses, merge and form one conference. 

 

 

I sort of agree with your example, but it can't be all of the AAC and MWC. There is no place for Tulane at the big boys table. Now if you made a conference out of the "best of the rest" it might be able to talk about deserving a seat at the table.

 

 

It depends how many teams are needed to keep up I think, Mike. Currently, there are 12 teams in the WMC and 10 in the AAC. 16 is the magic number everyone is talking about now is talking about now, right?

 

Playing musical chairs, looking at the teams available, what do you think a "super" AAC & MWC conference should look like?

 

- USF

- UCF

- Air Force

- Colorado St.

- Boise

- Fresno

- San Diego

- Cincy

- UCONN

- Houston

- SMU

- Navy

- Memphis

- Temple

- ECU

- Tulsa

 

I could live with this conference

 

Replace one with BYU and it might be a **** good conference. Take Colorado St out?

West:

- Air Force

- BYU

- Boise

- Fresno

- San Diego

- Houston

- SMU

- Tulsa

East

- USF

- UCF

- Cincy

- UCONN

- Navy

- Memphis

- Temple

- ECU

 

Not too bad...

 

 

What is nice about this league, is that it can be all sports .... where you play your division 80-90% of the time. Thus, travel costs aren't outrageous.

 

 

That's kind of what I'm thinking. It's quite reasonable.

[Brad]

If Boise wants back in, then they know something about impending realignment that the rest of us aren't privy to.

... else it would be like paddling your rowboat back to the Titanic because you think they had nice music.

You realize that in your example, you just put USF Athletics on the Titanic, listening to that nice music,

Yes, I realize that and I hope she sinks slower in our case.

[BaltoBull]

Where are New Mexico & Wyoming?

are they rejected from the merger?

 

?Speculation?

 

 

I'm just speculating who would and who wouldn't make the cut of a 16 team merger of the AAC and MWC.

 

I am not privy to information, nor am I pretending to be. This is just my best educated guess.

[Gismo]

AAC - MWC merger is still one that the networks won't pay for. USF needs to get into a conference that has a few brand name programs... Every P5 conference has at least two universities that have some brand name behind them... the AAC does not, and that is the problem. We need a brand name. 

[JTrue]

I doubt Boise does. They bent the MWC over when they "returned". Took more money than the other MWC schools, kept rights to their home games and a cut of TV money as well for bowls. SDSU I can see because they didnt get that deal.

If Boise wants back in, then they know something about impending realignment that the rest of us aren't privy to.

JTrue loves to talk crap about our conference record, but let me ask you JTrue: What were our overall records from 2005-2010? (We all know how we did in 2011-2012)

And don't try to spin your BS. List the overall records of USF Football from 2005-2010

2005 - 3rd place in conference and 6-6

2006 - 4th, 9-4

2007 - 3rd, 9-4

2008 - 6th, 8-5

2009 - 4th, 8-5

2010 - 5th, 8-5

Our average finish was somewhere between 4th and 5th place even after you ignore the last two years and only look at our "peak" seasons. How could I spin that?

[WoolyBully]

 

I doubt Boise does. They bent the MWC over when they "returned". Took more money than the other MWC schools, kept rights to their home games and a cut of TV money as well for bowls. SDSU I can see because they didnt get that deal.

If Boise wants back in, then they know something about impending realignment that the rest of us aren't privy to.

JTrue loves to talk crap about our conference record, but let me ask you JTrue: What were our overall records from 2005-2010? (We all know how we did in 2011-2012)

And don't try to spin your BS. List the overall records of USF Football from 2005-2010

Why don't you just get to your point so I don't have to guess? Is it that we should be in the ACC over Syracuse or Louisville?

 

1. Overall '05-'10 USF  was 48-29 (62.3% overall wining percentage) while 'Cuse was 22-50 (30.6%) and L'ville was 43-31 (58.1%). 

2. Wyoming is still in the Mountain West, but New Mexico State is independent in 2013 as is Idaho, in the imaginary league who knows where they'd land. Haven't heard one way or the other that they plan on joining a conference from 2014 forward.

[BaltoBull]

AAC - MWC merger is still one that the networks won't pay for. USF needs to get into a conference that has a few brand name programs... Every P5 conference has at least two universities that have some brand name behind them... the AAC does not, and that is the problem. We need a brand name. 

 

Other than what slpsi63 recommended with the addition of BYU, what brand names do you recommend? Navy, Air Force and Boise are probably the best brand names USF can hope to attach themselves to given what we ARE WORKING WITH.

[JTrue]

I doubt Boise does. They bent the MWC over when they "returned". Took more money than the other MWC schools, kept rights to their home games and a cut of TV money as well for bowls. SDSU I can see because they didnt get that deal.

If Boise wants back in, then they know something about impending realignment that the rest of us aren't privy to.

JTrue loves to talk crap about our conference record, but let me ask you JTrue: What were our overall records from 2005-2010? (We all know how we did in 2011-2012)

And don't try to spin your BS. List the overall records of USF Football from 2005-2010

Why don't you just get to your point so I don't have to guess? Is it that we should be in the ACC over Syracuse or Louisville?

1. Overall '05-'10 USF  was 48-29 (62.3% overall wining percentage) while 'Cuse was 22-50 (30.6%) and L'ville was 43-31 (58.1%). 

2. Wyoming is still in the Mountain West, but New Mexico State is independent in 2013 as is Idaho, in the imaginary league who knows where they'd land.

Would you like to post basketball winning percentages for that same time period? I think it's safe to say the ACC at least partially considered it in realignment.