Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

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http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/jeremy-fowler/22875447/the-american-likely-to-push-for-ncaa-subdivision-inclusion

 

The American likely to push for NCAA subdivision inclusion July 24, 2013 7:38 pm ET

 

The American Athletic Conference will likely push for inclusion if the power conferences break into a subdivision or so-called "Division 4," commissioner Mike Aresco told CBSSports.com.

Aresco said he will expound on this topic at the conference's media days in Newport, R.I. early next week, and he wants to know the parameters of a subdivision before discussing further with his presidents.

But on the surface, Aresco believes the American would fit certain criteria such as market size and long-term viability on the field.

“We want to compete at the highest level,†Aresco said.

Once a BCS automatic qualifier as the Big East, the American was ravaged by conference realignment and now sits well below the power five conferences in revenue – a difference of more than $100 million per school over the next seven years.

National sentiment is growing for high-resource schools – namely, those from the Pac-12, SEC, Big 12, Big Ten, the ACC and Notre Dame –to have flexibility to spend their money in certain ways.

Paying a player stipend is one, along with increased meals for players or paying expenses for a recruit's parents on official visits. Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany at Wednesday's Big Ten Media Day highlighted the need to revisit the 20-hour-a-week time demand on players and a greater commitment to educational trust as part of the restructuring.

Passing meaningful legislature is currently difficult, Bowlsby said, because the entire Division-I body of more than 340 schools plays a part in the governance process.

Though nothing is imminent, Delany expects a structural change within the next year. The issue is complex and could take several turns in the next 12 months. NCAA president Mark Emmert was open about the possibility when addressing Big 12 presidents and athletic directors during the conference's spring meetings in late May.

If a separate governance agreement could be subject to anti-trust lawsuits, perhaps the subdivision will include a membership threshold that any school can meet assuming they are willing to spend the necessary money for inclusion. In that case, the American, the Mountain West and others might have a chance to join, and the big schools still get what they want – the ability to spend their money as they choose.

But the power conferences could up the ante until the smaller conferences can't afford it.

What was telling from Delany's press conference: he referred to “among the five of us (commissioners)†when discussing a subdivision. Not six, but five.

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Maybe B12's Bob Bowlsby can explain to Aresco why Lubbock, Ames,Waco are more desirable markets than Cincinnati, Tampa, Orl, Memphis,oh wait

[Bull-by-Marriage]

WOW, minute by minute!

 

Screw those tiny little teams that are on the outside looking in. Why should we have to share with them?

Edited July 25, 2013 by Bull-by-Marriage

[Gismo]

   

[Bulls1181]

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/9503713/mack-brown-agrees-big-12-boss-bob-bowlsby-call-ncaa-reforms

 

"Mack Brown, who also has coached at Appalachian State, Tulane and North Carolina, said college football's big five conferences might even need to relegate some of their own programs that aren't financially able to keep up with the rest.

"They'd have to be weeded out," Brown said. "You have to say, 'Here's the minimum. If you can't live up to that, go do something else.' I think that's the only way to do it. It sounds harsh, but really and truly we're putting too much pressure on those that can't live in this world. If we pay them all and let them live in their own world, who cares? Make it a good league and make it fun."

[Gismo]

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/9503713/mack-brown-agrees-big-12-boss-bob-bowlsby-call-ncaa-reforms

 

"Mack Brown, who also has coached at Appalachian State, Tulane and North Carolina, said college football's big five conferences might even need to relegate some of their own programs that aren't financially able to keep up with the rest.

"They'd have to be weeded out," Brown said. "You have to say, 'Here's the minimum. If you can't live up to that, go do something else.' I think that's the only way to do it. It sounds harsh, but really and truly we're putting too much pressure on those that can't live in this world. If we pay them all and let them live in their own world, who cares? Make it a good league and make it fun."

Typical Longhorn arrogance. 

[Reliable Source]

The pinnacle of arrogance. These guys live in that sheltered little bubble that our politicians, the upper echelons of our military and Wall Street live in. i love this statement which is so typical of the arrogance

 

 

National sentiment is growing for high-resource schools – namely, those from the Pac-12, SEC, Big 12, Big Ten, the ACC and Notre Dame –to have flexibility to spend their money in certain ways

 

they may have overplayed their hand, but with a media that is in their pocket, public stupidity will soon bend their way.

 

[Gismo]

 

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/9503713/mack-brown-agrees-big-12-boss-bob-bowlsby-call-ncaa-reforms

 

"Mack Brown, who also has coached at Appalachian State, Tulane and North Carolina, said college football's big five conferences might even need to relegate some of their own programs that aren't financially able to keep up with the rest.

"They'd have to be weeded out," Brown said. "You have to say, 'Here's the minimum. If you can't live up to that, go do something else.' I think that's the only way to do it. It sounds harsh, but really and truly we're putting too much pressure on those that can't live in this world. If we pay them all and let them live in their own world, who cares? Make it a good league and make it fun."

Typical Longhorn arrogance. 

 

Seriously, Mack Brown is an idiot. 

 

So he has the nerve to suggest schools that have less resources need to get out... and then he also turns right around and says there should be a cap on coaching staffs re: Alabama? 

 

Texas arguably has more resources than any athletics program in the country. ESPN is paying them 15 million a year for their own TV channel, and he is ******** about Alabama having a larger staff, and that it's unfair? But then he's also suggesting some of the schools with less resources should just be booted out of the power 5? 

 

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/07/texas_coach_mack_brown_says_gr.html

 

Texas coach Mack Brown says growing coaching staffs like Alabama's should be capped

Texas head coach Mack Brown said at Tuesday's Big 12 Media Days session that Alabama's recent success is due in part to having one of the largest support staffs in the country, something Brown thinks is an unfair advantage for the Crimson Tide.

 

Brown, who is currently the president of the American Football Coaches Association, said he and the NCAA have discussed implementing a possible cap on the number of non-coaching staff members allowed in college football.

 

 

"As president of the American Football Coaches Association this year, I've been very involved with Coach Teaff and the American Football Coaches Association board, in looking at rules, potential rules changes, and size of staff is one that has been very discussed because Alabama has had so much success, and their staff has been bigger than any of the other staffs in college football."

 

"So there was a thought at the board level of the American Football Coaches Association that, for the first time, along with the NCAA, maybe there should be a cap or a number to make it more fair across the board." 

 

 

 

How about this Mack Brown... a salary cap for college coaches? You know, to make it more fair accross the board? Would you like that? 

 

What an imbecile this guy is. 

Edited July 25, 2013 by Gismo

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..."They'd have to be weeded out*," Brown said. "You have to say, 'Here's the minimum. If you can't live up to that, go do something else.' I think that's the only way to do it. It sounds harsh, but really and truly we're putting too much pressure on those that can't live in this world. If we pay them all and let them live in their own world, who cares? Make it a good league and make it fun."

 

Man. Now that's some serious language to be tossin' around and attributed to a name, not an anonymous source!  And then there's this...

 

 

"My thought would be to take the group of teams that has it all and let them play it out," Brown said. "You have the NFL of college football. You'll make enough money out of it to make the next group. You can make it really exciting and fun for them, but let them play within their own element. Let them play at their own level. Don't try to make something out of something you don't have. Then you'll have the last group and you can make it a great little league. They can enjoy it."

 

The article does bring up some interesting points about the disparity between programs and how the NCAA football program is governed. It really does sound like there's sufficient money to be made in the upper echelon of the sports that they are being held back on what they want to do, because not everyone has that sort of discretionary spending. I like the term "a great little league"...now you kids go outside while the grownups talk.

 

*Like the bloodsucking, filthy, albatross-around-the-neck vermin they really are. 

[Gismo]

 

..."They'd have to be weeded out*," Brown said. "You have to say, 'Here's the minimum. If you can't live up to that, go do something else.' I think that's the only way to do it. It sounds harsh, but really and truly we're putting too much pressure on those that can't live in this world. If we pay them all and let them live in their own world, who cares? Make it a good league and make it fun."

 

Man. Now that's some serious language to be tossin' around and attributed to a name, not an anonymous source!  And then there's this...

 

 

 

My thought would be to take the group of teams that has it all and let them play it out," Brown said. "You have the NFL of college football. You'll make enough money out of it to make the next group. You can make it really exciting and fun for them, but 

let them play within their own element. Let them play at their own level. Don't try to make something out of something you don't have. Then you'll have the last group and you can make it a great little league. They can enjoy it.

 

 

The article does bring up some interesting points about the disparity between programs and how the NCAA football program is governed. It really does sound like there's sufficient money to be made in the upper echelon of the sports that they are being held back on what they want to do, because not everyone has that sort of discretionary spending. I like the term "a great little league"...now you kids go outside while the grownups talk.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Like the bloodsucking, filthy, albatross-around-the-neck vermin they really are. 

 

And he is coming from the perspective of Texas. Most universities run at a loss, not a profit. If they were to make a league of only universities that run at a profit, they would only have 14 teams... at least according to this study from 2009, only 14 out of 120 FBS athletic departments were profitable. 

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5490686

 

Here are some more stats... university spending ratio between athletes and students

 

http://deadspin.com/5976391/sec-schools-spend-163931-per-athlete-and-other-ways-the-ncaa-is-a-bonfire-for-your-money

 

And, ESPN listing of revenues from 2008:

 

http://espn.go.com/ncaa/revenue

 

 

And it's no mystery who wants to be able to pay players. It's probably only the universities that are actually operating at a profit. This is why you have resistance even from some members of the power 5, because even in the power 5, the majority of them are all running at a loss, and can see if they change up the rules to have to spend more themselves to compete, it doesn't really help them. The only universities in a good financial position for this new format are likely all in the top 20 revenue wise, with everyone else operating in the red. You have this being pushed mostly by the SEC, which probably has the largest percentage of profitable schools of any conference, and in the ACC, there is resistance, because it has more universities operating in the red, and it's members are more focused on academics.