Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

[Bull94]

3 minutes ago, 79 Bull said:

Probably only P4 spots or zero.  Top ranked Gx team will have to be ranked in the top 12.  SEC/B1G powers that be will make sure that never happens unless it's truly a 13-0 team that beat a couple top P5 teams in the regular season.

nah there will be one spot at least.

they know that they bring in a much larger audience when fans of the lower conferences feel their team has a chance.

just like the basketball tourney

[JAFFX2]

15 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

By your logic, ucf (or any school that has moved up) wouldn't get a pay bump.

Not the same situation.  The B12 lost 2 teams with a windfall $100M buyout, so the net was still positive to the existing teams without a dime of added media $$.  Without an uptick in AAC per team media dollars it doesn't work..............not likely  anyone would be willing to double the media payout for a G5 to G5 jump.  It gets even more complicated because the MWC is under Fox and CBS and the AAC is ESPN

Edited August 24, 2023 by JAFFX2

[Bull94]

Just now, JAFFX2 said:

Not the same situation.  The B12 lost 2 teams with with a windfall $100M buyout, so the net was still positive to the existing teams without a dime of added media $$.  Without an uptick in AAC per team media dollars it doesn't work..............

it's exactly  the same situation if the media partners agree to it.

Pac schools are getting a full share in big 12 and the aac teams are getting half.

the buyout had nothing to do with adding teams. they were getting that money whether or not they expanded.

[BullyPulpit]

9 minutes ago, JAFFX2 said:

To your point MWC teams get paid a little more than 1/2 what AAC teams get paid.........adding those teams to the AAC would erode the media deal unless someone is willing to pay those teams double what they are currently being paid.........doesn't add up

You are thinking of it in sum of parts versus the whole. ESPN needs/wants some level of West Coast programming. As it stands, they have sat by and watched the Big Ten take the 4 most valuable west coast schools, and they only have a portion of the Big 12 media rights. By getting Stanford and Cal into the ACC, they now control those two. If they can find a way to add OSU and WSU to the AAC, great. If they can then decimate the MWC by taking 4 or 5 of its most valuable programs to the AAC, they will have taken away inventory from their media opponents (FOX, CBS, NBC). This is all about consolidation and it is going exactly how the media giants want it to go.  

[Bull Matrix]

23 minutes ago, BullyPulpit said:

There won't be 6 guaranteed spots. 

2024 there is a contract stipulating the top 6 rated conference champions get that 6 spots while the other 6 get an at large. I’m not sure how the contract playoff format will look after that one has expired but at least we have 2024

[Bull Matrix]

13 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

nah there will be one spot at least.

they know that they bring in a much larger audience when fans of the lower conferences feel their team has a chance.

just like the basketball tourney

This! Thank you.  I been trying to drill this into just about everyone. USF needs to be regular contenders for that spot. Im pretty sure that will eventually help them get an invite to a better paying conference 

[SilverBull]

2 minutes ago, Bull Matrix said:

27 minutes ago, BullyPulpit said:

There won't be 6 guaranteed spots. 

2024 there is a contract stipulating the top 6 rated conference champions get that 6 spots while the other 6 get an at large. I’m not sure how the contract playoff format will look after that one has expired but at least we have 2024

Yep, ironclad.  And we have the comfort of knowing no one ever changes contracts, particularly in the world of college football.

 

[Bull Matrix]

2 minutes ago, SilverBull said:

Yep, ironclad.  And we have the comfort of knowing no one ever changes contracts, particularly in the world of college football.

 

Not even FSU….. 

 

You see how all this is circular. Whatever any negative Nancy can throw at us. The Optimus Primes will always have a great positive response back lol 

[BullyPulpit]

2 minutes ago, Bull Matrix said:

2024 there is a contract stipulating the top 6 rated conference champions get that 6 spots while the other 6 get an at large. I’m not sure how the contract playoff format will look after that one has expired but at least we have 2024

No offense, but big whoop. This is all about consolidation. They are creating the appearance of fairness for now. The reality is that they are going to get to the point where the semifinals teams are from the B1G and SEC every year. I see things playing out like this: by 2036, the SEC and B1G will take what their media partners want from the Big 12, ACC, and any G5 that might be attractive by then. They will likely get to 24 to 30 teams each, break into 3 divisions, have separate "playoffs" consisting of the division winners and the next best 3 teams. Then the SEC and B1G playoff champions will play in the College Football Championship game.  Everyone else outside of that elite fraternity will be relegated to a lesser division of college football. USF's window of opportunity to not get left out is just about closed. We have about 12 years to make the CFP a few times and win a few games in the playoff in order to be considered. A very tall order when you factor in that the G5 teams are essentially all competing for 1, maybe 2, playoff spots each season. 

[JAFFX2]

19 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

it's exactly  the same situation if the media partners agree to it.

Pac schools are getting a full share in big 12 and the aac teams are getting half.

the buyout had nothing to do with adding teams. they were getting that money whether or not they expanded.

Sure if the media partners agree it will work.  The B12 unanimously voted the new PAC12 members full shares because it was in the best interest of the conference to kill off the PAC.  When the 4 G5's agreed to 2 years of 1/2 shares and then full shares thereafter they didn't have anywhere close to the same leverage as there was a good chance that this might have been the last G5 to P5 life boat.  There was no B12 added media dollars for the first 2 years as they did not have a pro rata clause.  The reason the deal worked without eroding the current members payout for the first two years was because the buyout money provided enough money to pay the new members without the existing members having to give up anything

Edited August 24, 2023 by JAFFX2