Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

[KB]

internship

[Bull Dozer]

McMurphy tweet about the SEC network

" SEC commish Mike Slive said SEC/ESPN press conference to announce SEC Network will be May 2 in Atlanta"

Once again, nobody is leaving the SEC

[bull-71]

 

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2011/10/rutgers-appears-to-be-most-popular-in-new-york-city-market/1#.UXcWpcrnPQ4

 

 

Oct 27, 2011

Rutgers appears to be most popular in New York City market

 

The Rutgers-Louisville game on ESPN2 had more than twice the viewers in New York City than the Syracuse-West Virginia game on ESPN. Both started at 8 on Friday night. Rutgers-Louisville drew a 1.45 share in New York City compared to 0.7 for West Virginia-Syracuse, according to the Nielsen ratings.

Rutgers has been involved in all five of the all-time top-rated football games in New York City on ESPN2 and been part of four of the five all-time highest-rated football games in the New York City area on ESPN.

 

 

Syracuse is upstate NY...not New York Metropolitan area  no afilliation

[RaisingFenix]

I'll offer my two cents (FYI, TL;DR):

 

First, I'm not terribly bummed about us now essentially being locked out of the ACC.  Whenever I thought of the scenarios that would lead to us being invited to the ACC, I was reminded of the Groucho Marx line, "I don't want to belong to any club that will accept people like me as a member."

 

For us to have gotten into the ACC would have required a mass exodus of several of the teams that make that league part of the P5 now.  Our acceptance would coincide with the P5 becoming the P4, sans ACC.  Our level of competition would have been similar to what we had in the BE, and the TV contract would almost certainly be renegotiated lower - maybe more than we're getting now, but nowhere near what the P4 get.

 

I was always of the opinion that getting into the Big 12 was our best bet at moving up and still being relevant, since us being invited didn't require the conference to blow up first.  The rumors about the Big 12 wanting to get Florida teams may be just that - rumors - but they do make some sense.  And if that is the case, USF and UCF are pretty much the only games left in town.

 

There are two separate issues I see being debated in this thread right now:

1. Whether or not the Big 12 wants to expand beyond 10 members and get a CCG.

2. If the Big 12 wants to expand, whether we will be at the top of the list.

 

I think the first point is valid. They've said they don't want to expand (of course they did), but the reasons to go to 12 are pretty compelling.

 

If they stand pat at 10, then it looks like realignment comes to a halt for the time being.  I don't think this is the end of the world for us.  In the meantime, we can improve our appeal to any league that may eventually come calling.  We can start by winning a few conference championships, for one.  True, winning isn't likely the #1 factor in who gets selected for realignment, but it does feed several factors that certainly are considered - attendance, fan base, revenue, TV sets, etc.  If we had the attendance and fan enthusiasm that we did for WVU in 07 consistently, can you really argue that we wouldn't be a more attractive candidate?  That's what winning does for us.

 

If the Big 12 does decide to expand, Florida does look like an obvious place to look.  Hopefully we still have a leg up on UCF, in case they were to decide they only want one school in Florida.

 

Regardless, the (almost) worst-case scenario for us is that we get left in the AAC while the big boys go play.  Not the end of times.  The absolute worst case scenario is that the Big 12 decides to expand, they only want one Florida school, and they take UCF over us, while we get left behind and they go on to riches and glory.  But if that were going to happen, it would have happened on December 21st last year, so I'm not sweating it.

[slick1ru2]

 

 

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2011/10/rutgers-appears-to-be-most-popular-in-new-york-city-market/1#.UXcWpcrnPQ4

 

 

Oct 27, 2011

Rutgers appears to be most popular in New York City market

 

The Rutgers-Louisville game on ESPN2 had more than twice the viewers in New York City than the Syracuse-West Virginia game on ESPN. Both started at 8 on Friday night. Rutgers-Louisville drew a 1.45 share in New York City compared to 0.7 for West Virginia-Syracuse, according to the Nielsen ratings.

Rutgers has been involved in all five of the all-time top-rated football games in New York City on ESPN2 and been part of four of the five all-time highest-rated football games in the New York City area on ESPN.

 

 

Syracuse is upstate NY...not New York Metropolitan area  no afilliation

 

Uh, we aren't talking school attendance, we are talking fans. We didn't live in Miami in the 60s but we were Dolphin fans. What you are saying is like, its Tampa, Tallahassee is in upstate Florida, no affiliation, no Nole fans in Tampa, same for Gator and Canes fans. How many FBS teams are in NY? Two, the other being Buffalo. Syracuse markets itself as NY's College Team. They sell shirts, Orange In The Apple.  

 

http://s3images.coroflot.com/user_files/individual_files/original_135501_VhTYmgS9h0bBJGZaUlDVMZn51.jpg

 

 

http://images.footballfanatics.com/FFImage/thumb.aspx?i=/productimages/_971000/altimages/FF_971770ALT2_xl.jpg&w=600

 

http://images.footballfanatics.com/FFImage/thumb.aspx?i=%2fproductImages%2f_973000%2fff_973478_xl.jpg&w=400

 

 

 

From the NYC Syracuse alumni webpage, bigappleorange.org:

 

 

 

Do you notice the number of Syracuse University t-shirts, hats, bumper stickers all around New York City? We are everywhere in NYC!

 

 

Edited April 24, 2013 by slick1ru2

[Dogma]

 

 

 

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2011/10/rutgers-appears-to-be-most-popular-in-new-york-city-market/1#.UXcWpcrnPQ4

 

 

Oct 27, 2011

Rutgers appears to be most popular in New York City market

 

The Rutgers-Louisville game on ESPN2 had more than twice the viewers in New York City than the Syracuse-West Virginia game on ESPN. Both started at 8 on Friday night. Rutgers-Louisville drew a 1.45 share in New York City compared to 0.7 for West Virginia-Syracuse, according to the Nielsen ratings.

Rutgers has been involved in all five of the all-time top-rated football games in New York City on ESPN2 and been part of four of the five all-time highest-rated football games in the New York City area on ESPN.

 

 

Syracuse is upstate NY...not New York Metropolitan area  no afilliation

 

Uh, we aren't talking school attendance, we are talking fans. We didn't live in Miami in the 60s but we were Dolphin fans. What you are saying is like, its Tampa, Tallahassee is in upstate Florida, no affiliation, no Nole fans in Tampa, same for Gator and Canes fans. How many FBS teams are in NY? Two, the other being Buffalo. Syracuse markets itself as NY's College Team. They sell shirts, Orange In The Apple.  

 

http://s3images.coroflot.com/user_files/individual_files/original_135501_VhTYmgS9h0bBJGZaUlDVMZn51.jpg

 

 

http://images.footballfanatics.com/FFImage/thumb.aspx?i=/productimages/_971000/altimages/FF_971770ALT2_xl.jpg&w=600

 

http://images.footballfanatics.com/FFImage/thumb.aspx?i=%2fproductImages%2f_973000%2fff_973478_xl.jpg&w=400

 

 

 

 

 

If you have to actively market yourself as the team of a city... Then you're not that city's team

[charsibb]

This is from 2011, but Rutgers had a clear lead on the NY market...

 

http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/19/the-geography-of-college-football-fans-and-realignment-chaos/

[BaltoBull]

Just my two cents...

 

I'm sure Syracuse would LOVE to be New York, especially NYC's team, but I suggest NYC's team is Notre Dame. I guess we'll see what the split in the stadium is when they play in the Meadowlands.

 

I don't know, looking at the t-shirt above reminded me of our "Welcome to the Big 4" billboard.

Edited April 24, 2013 by BaltoBull

[slick1ru2]

Just my two cents...

 

I'm sure Syracuse would LOVE to be New York, especially NYC's team, but I suggest NYC's team is Notre Dame. I guess we'll see what the split in the stadium is when they play in the Meadowlands.

 

I don't know, looking at the t-shirt above reminded me of our "Welcome to the Big 4" billboard.

Not according to the graphic just posted. And Syracuse is the #1 NY college in NYC, probably the state too. I imagine the % was higher back in the day of their glory, which all goes back to winning. I bet  in 2001 Rutgers wasn't number one in NYC.

[slick1ru2]

 

 

 

 

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2011/10/rutgers-appears-to-be-most-popular-in-new-york-city-market/1#.UXcWpcrnPQ4

 

 

Oct 27, 2011

Rutgers appears to be most popular in New York City market

 

The Rutgers-Louisville game on ESPN2 had more than twice the viewers in New York City than the Syracuse-West Virginia game on ESPN. Both started at 8 on Friday night. Rutgers-Louisville drew a 1.45 share in New York City compared to 0.7 for West Virginia-Syracuse, according to the Nielsen ratings.

Rutgers has been involved in all five of the all-time top-rated football games in New York City on ESPN2 and been part of four of the five all-time highest-rated football games in the New York City area on ESPN.

 

 

Syracuse is upstate NY...not New York Metropolitan area  no afilliation

 

Uh, we aren't talking school attendance, we are talking fans. We didn't live in Miami in the 60s but we were Dolphin fans. What you are saying is like, its Tampa, Tallahassee is in upstate Florida, no affiliation, no Nole fans in Tampa, same for Gator and Canes fans. How many FBS teams are in NY? Two, the other being Buffalo. Syracuse markets itself as NY's College Team. They sell shirts, Orange In The Apple.  

 

http://s3images.coroflot.com/user_files/individual_files/original_135501_VhTYmgS9h0bBJGZaUlDVMZn51.jpg

 

 

http://images.footballfanatics.com/FFImage/thumb.aspx?i=/productimages/_971000/altimages/FF_971770ALT2_xl.jpg&w=600

 

http://images.footballfanatics.com/FFImage/thumb.aspx?i=%2fproductImages%2f_973000%2fff_973478_xl.jpg&w=400

 

 

 

 

 

If you have to actively market yourself as the team of a city... Then you're not that city's team

 

Guess it only works on the national level. America's team, Dallas, having the top media exposure rank.

 

http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/newswire/2010/cowboys-tackle-top-spot-in-nfl-media-exposure-rankings.html