Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

[Bull94]

3 minutes ago, hm101 said:

Bingo. I have said this before. 

It is in Syracuse and BCs, etc best interest to let FSU and Clemson, etc go. Side with them. Dissolve the ACC/GOR. Scoop in new blood, put a new bow on it. I would bet that would net out positive financially for them too. 

you're insane if you think losing fsu and clemson won't affect BC and syracuse negatively

[Bull94]

13 minutes ago, bulloni said:

yeah sports tv contracts seems like a bubble. The payouts now compared to 20 years ago are insane while tv ratings don't seem all that different. Would think we're pretty close to things at least plateauing if not declining.

ever increasing cable carriage fees allowed sports channels to bid higher and higher every year. Cable is dying.

MLB teams are having to sue Bally's just to get 50% of their contract payout

[Bull94]

Sources: ESPN begins plans to sell channel as a streaming service

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Sources have said that ESPN is laying the groundwork to sell its channel directly as a subscription-streaming service in coming years.

bye bye carriage fees

[UCF_rustbucket]

26 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

Sources: ESPN begins plans to sell channel as a streaming service

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Sources have said that ESPN is laying the groundwork to sell its channel directly as a subscription-streaming service in coming years.

bye bye carriage fees

Aka, the secret sauce that made trash bags like Maryland and Rutgers attractive for the B1G. It was never about their actual fans/viewers, but being able to slap carriage fees for the B1G network in those 2 massive markets.

[Bull94]

11 minutes ago, UCF_rustbucket said:

Aka, the secret sauce that made trash bags like Maryland and Rutgers attractive for the B1G. It was never about their actual fans/viewers, but being able to slap carriage fees for the B1G network in those 2 massive markets.

exactly. we will see payouts to sports leagues(including college conferences) reduced dramatically with the end of  carriage fees.

in 2021 4.69m people cancelled pay tv subscriptions. a 14% increase in cancellations over the previous year.

ESPN gets $7.64 per month for each subscriber in carriage fees.

That's $36m per month or $432m per year in lost revenue. that's not peanuts.

 

WTF are TV carriage fees?

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One of the foremost obstacles to TV network owners reorienting their businesses around streaming instead of traditional TV is giving up the revenue they receive from...

 

[USFBULL_08]

1 hour ago, Bull94 said:

you're insane if you think losing fsu and clemson won't affect BC and syracuse negatively

Exactly.

We literally just saw this in the PAC12 and Big12.

[Bull94]

8 minutes ago, USFBULL_08 said:

Exactly.

We literally just saw this in the PAC12 and Big12.

it's why they are considering an uneven revenue distribution to keep them.

 

Edited May 18, 2023 by Bull94

[hm101]

2 minutes ago, USFBULL_08 said:

Exactly.

We literally just saw this in the PAC12 and Big12.

It's a false choice. You are assuming they can actually hold onto them. I'm saying they need to accept that they WILL lose FSU and Clemson so they need to maximize their value GIVEN that. 

In addition, it's factually wrong to say they will be worse off. Big 12's 2021-22 revenue distribution: $42.6M. It will be around $10m more per school in the new world. 

As if that's not enough, if they stay with FSU/Clem, and the ACC survives, it will be with a highly uneven rev distribution, so you're actively giving up revenue to stay married to FSU/Clem. 

What am I missing?

[BDYZR]

1 hour ago, UCF_rustbucket said:

Aka, the secret sauce that made trash bags like Maryland and Rutgers attractive for the B1G. It was never about their actual fans/viewers, but being able to slap carriage fees for the B1G network in those 2 massive markets.

So does the B1G dump Maryland and Rutgers? Or will we see all conference payouts performance based?

[Jim Johnson]

1 hour ago, UCF_rustbucket said:

Aka, the secret sauce that made trash bags like Maryland and Rutgers attractive for the B1G. It was never about their actual fans/viewers, but being able to slap carriage fees for the B1G network in those 2 massive markets.

Fox owns a lot of the B1G network... and the CEO is not a fan of streaming.

 

Fox CEO Lachlan Murdoch: TNF switch from broadcast to streaming is a "disaster" - ProFootballTalk

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For the NFL, streaming isn’t the future. It’s the present. One executive whose business model arguably could end up being stuck in the past had something to say about the...