Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

[Triple B]

Just now, NewEnglandBull said:

For sure, but winning games, conference titles, playing on NYD sure as hell can’t hurt. The three schools from the AAC who moved to the B12 did all of these things. USF however is banking on location (which is a debatable importance since the fan base is UF and FSU) and academics. 

Of course it can't hurt, but if there's no way we can magically do that in time for this round, if there is more, so we have to bank on location, academics, potential, etc. This coming year's results is a non factor in this round of expansion ....

[BDYZR]

27 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said:

For sure, but winning games, conference titles, playing on NYD sure as hell can’t hurt. The three schools from the AAC who moved to the B12 did all of these things. USF however is banking on location (which is a debatable importance since the fan base is UF and FSU) and academics. 

100% AGREE! Those three schools also filled their stadiums and followed their teams to other stadiums. I think it all matters in the expansion conversations. Of course winning consistently will probably solve all those problems.

[smazza]

29 minutes ago, Jim Johnson said:

That doesn't explain UCLA... better than USF, sure... but if on field success was important it should be USC and Oregon going to the Big Ten.

 

big 10 wants la market

 

ucla/usc go together like peanut butter and jelly

brillant move by the big 10

[MaltLiquorBull]

51 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said:

It would be a small fee consistory have never played a down for them. 

I don’t think that is as big as many people think. You want a team that has actually won something and can be competitive right away as well.

I know it hasn't been this way recently, but USF has defeated quite a few ACC teams historically.  FSU, Miami, Clemson, UNC, NCState, Pitt, Syracuse.  Maybe that counts for something.

[NewEnglandBull]

59 minutes ago, Jim Johnson said:

That doesn't explain UCLA... better than USF, sure... but if on field success was important it should be USC and Oregon going to the Big Ten.

 

Tradition....

[NewEnglandBull]

54 minutes ago, Triple B said:

Of course it can't hurt, but if there's no way we can magically do that in time for this round, if there is more, so we have to bank on location, academics, potential, etc. This coming year's results is a non factor in this round of expansion ....

I have to respectively disagree with you on that. This year is vitial in my opinion. If this team falls hard they will lose even more interest from the community (if thats possible). Location means nothing if no one cares. 

[NewEnglandBull]

25 minutes ago, MaltLiquorBull said:

I know it hasn't been this way recently, but USF has defeated quite a few ACC teams historically.  FSU, Miami, Clemson, UNC, NCState, Pitt, Syracuse.  Maybe that counts for something.

For sure the handful of big moments we have had cannot hurt. But in this game of expansion most people outside of USF don't even remember those games. I would submit, based on attendance and interest that most USF "fans" don't remember. The better play is to win and win now to show that the program has some relivancy in the hear and now. 

[Triple B]

3 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said:

I have to respectively disagree with you on that. This year is vitial in my opinion. If this team falls hard they will lose even more interest from the community (if thats possible). Location means nothing if no one cares. 

So if further expansion happens in the next couple months, do you think we get upgraded?

[NewEnglandBull]

21 minutes ago, Triple B said:

So if further expansion happens in the next couple months, do you think we get upgraded?

My opinon? No, I do not think we do. Or, at least I have seen no signs that it is warrented "yet." That is why I have been saying USF is better off if the expansion train slows down for a few years. That will give us time to solidfy infrastructures and improve on the field.  

[MaltLiquorBull]

30 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said:

For sure the handful of big moments we have had cannot hurt. But in this game of expansion most people outside of USF don't even remember those games. I would submit, based on attendance and interest that most USF "fans" don't remember. The better play is to win and win now to show that the program has some relivancy in the hear and now. 

Oh, forgot GT.  That counts, too.  Thankfully we had that guy Horn who could run back kicks and score TDs.

But yes, I agree that its ancient history.  Us old Bulls fans are like Al Bundy still recalling his high school days at Polk high--4 touchdowns in one game.  We need to start winning now--people have short attention spans.