Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

[NewEnglandBull]

27 minutes ago, Bull Daly said:

Think Seth Greenberg was thinking that Kansas may end up in PAC Ten.  Ok State may be hoping for an SEC invite which I doubt will be coming anytime soon. We shall see. PAC 12 is fortunate to be having new tv contract negotiations going on so they can go out and get some Big 12 schools that will help make their contract better. 

More than likely the PAC10 will be nothing but a shell in 2 years or less. Their contract will be lower than the B12. The B12 survived this and look like the last conference in the P3. You can hope and dream all you want but USF is in an unenviable position right now. 

Edited July 19, 2022 by NewEnglandBull

[UCF_rustbucket]

30 minutes ago, Bull Daly said:

Think Seth Greenberg was thinking that Kansas may end up in PAC Ten.  Ok State may be hoping for an SEC invite which I doubt will be coming anytime soon. We shall see. PAC 12 is fortunate to be having new tv contract negotiations going on so they can go out and get some Big 12 schools that will help make their contract better. 

Being first in contract negotiations is only an advantage if the existing core of the PAC gets a higher valuation than the new Big 12. Not just higher, but higher to a point worth paying out the conference exit fee and forfeiting NCAA credits for. I'm sure each conference is having their conversations with networks and analysts to see where they stand. 

[Cubanbull]

29 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said:

More than likely the PAC10 will be nothing but a shell in 2 years or less. Their contract will be lower than the B12. The B12 survived this and look like the last conference in the P3. You can hope and dream all you want but USF is in an unenviable position right now. 

Unless ND is moving, there won’t be any other PAC schools moving. The PAC and Big12 will get similar contracts 

[UCF_rustbucket]

5 minutes ago, Cubanbull said:

Unless ND is moving, there won’t be any other PAC schools moving. The PAC and Big12 will get similar contracts 

That had mostly been my feeling as well. But something seems different now after the PAC 12 couldn't make deals with either of the other middle 3 P5s. 

 

Also worth noting, the PAC 12 doesn't have an exit fee. The Big 12's exit fee is 2 years of payouts. So even if things may appear slightly equal, there's less hurdles if a PAC 12 team suddenly felt tempted to leave.

[Cubanbull]

3 minutes ago, UCF_rustbucket said:

That had mostly been my feeling as well. But something seems different now after the PAC 12 couldn't make deals with either of the other middle 3 P5s. 

 

Also worth noting, the PAC 12 doesn't have an exit fee. The Big 12's exit fee is 2 years of payouts. So even if things may appear slightly equal, there's less hurdles if a PAC 12 team suddenly felt tempted to leave.

Yes, but why would you leave if you aren’t going to be making more money? You think the Arizona schools are excited about anyone in Big12? Or having to play in WV or Florida?

For them to move the Big12 must make more money and I just don’t see that happening

[I like GOOOOLD (and green)]

1 hour ago, Cubanbull said:

Yes, but why would you leave if you aren’t going to be making more money? You think the Arizona schools are excited about anyone in Big12? Or having to play in WV or Florida?

For them to move the Big12 must make more money and I just don’t see that happening

PAC money will be going down, significantly.  B12 money will be going up, no one knows how much.  The new PAC/MWC love child conference will be a very good conference, better than the AAC. 

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[Bull Matrix]

5 hours ago, NewEnglandBull said:

More than likely the PAC10 will be nothing but a shell in 2 years or less. Their contract will be lower than the B12. The B12 survived this and look like the last conference in the P3. You can hope and dream all you want but USF is in an unenviable position right now. 

Honestly how can anyone justify Big 12 being better than PAC12 tv contract when the Big 12 is currently locked in and the PAC10 is opening up tv negotiations? They still have Oregon and the Rose Bowl tie in. All they have to do is invite what is left of the watered down Big12

[Steve]

6 hours ago, Cubanbull said:

Yes, but why would you leave if you aren’t going to be making more money? You think the Arizona schools are excited about anyone in Big12? Or having to play in WV or Florida?

For them to move the Big12 must make more money and I just don’t see that happening

At this point, B12 seems more stable than the PAC. That could change, and I’m sure that you couldn’t say that about B12 a year ago. If the Arizona schools think that their ship is sinking, they’ll jump to B12, even if it’s a minor downgrade in terms of teams.

[bulloni]

4 hours ago, I like GOOOOLD (and green) said:

PAC money will be going down, significantly.  B12 money will be going up, no one knows how much.  The new PAC/MWC love child conference will be a very good conference, better than the AAC. 

There's no way the BIG12 loses 2 top 7 brands in college football and replaces them with BYU and 3 G5's and their valuation goes up. The networks will be negotiating with the remaining 8's TV numbers in games that didn't include Texas/OU. 

https://www.blackandgoldbanneret.com/knight-insight/2021/7/26/22594438/big-12-without-texas-oklahoma-worth-the-same-on-tv-as-the-american-ratings-viewers-media-ucf-aac

In 2019 Big 12 games without Texas/Oklahoma averaged 0.708 million, that same year AAC games averaged 1.022 million. Granted those 3 G5's are a big part of why the Americans numbers we're higher. But it won't be enough to increase the payout.

Everything you read now has been posturing by conferences.