Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

[Rocky Style]

2 minutes ago, Apis Bull said:

That's the most likely to happen

MOAR MONEY MORE BEER ADS

[NewEnglandBull]

1 hour ago, Apis Bull said:

So, we're only looking at:  Connecticut, New Mexico, Nevada, Hawaii, Idaho, and Wyoming,

It would be better if we could get Florida, Texas, and California to do it.  Obviously, they won't though

and this is why Washington will not get involved. Not. Going.To.Happen. 

[raginbull76]

On 11/19/2012 at 1:37 PM, Bulls1181 said:

Greg Swaim Show â€@GSwaim

That #B1G would take #Terps & #Rutgers, but didn't want #Mizzou screams emphatically that this is 100% about television market size.

 

 

This is the only reason why USF has a fighting chance.

 In my opinion, television market size, along with perhaps educational reputation would be the only reasons why USF would be considered.  I think our reputation as a quality institution of higher education would pass muster with that conference.  The big problem would be whether or not the ACC would take a chance on a school with virtually no mens' football or basketball following of any note.  The empty stands tell the story!  However, forward thinking conference officials might realize that those stands just might become full and the beginning of a real "Bulls Nation" might come to fruition if real football teams, so to speak, start coming to the Ray Jay on a regular basis.  

Also, what about UCF?  Sorry to say, but they are more deserving than we are at this point.  No respect!

[Mama_Bull]

3 hours ago, raginbull76 said:

 In my opinion, television market size, along with perhaps educational reputation would be the only reasons why USF would be considered.  I think our reputation as a quality institution of higher education would pass muster with that conference.  The big problem would be whether or not the ACC would take a chance on a school with virtually no mens' football or basketball following of any note.  The empty stands tell the story!  However, forward thinking conference officials might realize that those stands just might become full and the beginning of a real "Bulls Nation" might come to fruition if real football teams, so to speak, start coming to the Ray Jay on a regular basis.  

Also, what about UCF?  Sorry to say, but they are more deserving than we are at this point.  No respect!

Tampa #13 is a bigger TV market than Orlando #19.

ONLY USF, FSU and UF are" preeminent" Universities in the state of Florida. UCF is NOT.

USF (#140) is also ranked 31 points better than UCF (#171) in USN&WR.

USF does about $500 million in research/yr and UCF only about $150 million/yr.

When we were in the Big East we averaged 45,000-50,000 every year in football. So we already have a multi-year track record of good attendance in a major conference. I believe only WVU drew better than USF in the BE. Our attendance compared to Pitt was, on average, about the same. The other BE teams were behind USF in attendance. That information was included in our presentation to the Big 12. So, they already know those facts

As for UCF, we have a better overall percentage of football wins and we were in a tougher conference.

We have won more bowl games than UCF and have a 6-3 record head to head.

Yes, they have won some "minor conference championships" and their one real claim to fame was beating Baylor in the Fiesta Bowl. 

However, we have much better wins over all including: Bowl win over Clemson, @Auburn, @FSU, @ Miami, @ND, Bowl win over South Carolina, and wins against WVU, Pitt, Louisville, TCU, UNC, NCST and many other current P5 teams.

If you compare our P5 wins to UCF there is no comparison.

Conference realignment as almost everything to do with football and very little to do with  basketball. If otherwise, UConn, Memphis and Cincy would now be in a P5 conference.

 

Edited November 30, 2017 by Mama_Bull

[Bullrush33]

11 minutes ago, Mama_Bull said:

Tampa #13 is a bigger TV market than Orlando #19.

ONLY USF, FSU and UF are" preeminent" Universities in the state of Florida. UCF is NOT.

USF (#140) is also ranked 31 points better than UCF (#171) in USN&WR.

USF does about $500 million in research/yr and UCF only about $150 million/yr.

When we were in the Big East we averaged 45,000-50,000 every year in football. So we already have a multi-year track record of good attendance in a major conference. I believe only WVU drew better than USF in the BE. Our attendance compared to Pitt was, on average, about the same. The other BE teams were behind USF in attendance. That information was included in our presentation to the Big 12. So, they already know those facts

As for UCF, we have a better overall percentage of football wins and we were in a tougher conference.

We have won more bowl games than UCF and have a 6-3 record head to head.

Yes, they have won some "minor conference championships" and their one real claim to fame was beating Baylor in the Fiesta Bowl. 

However, we have much better wins over all including: Bowl win over Clemson, @Auburn, @FSU, @ Miami, @ND, Bowl win over South Carolina, and wins against WVU, Pitt, Louisville, TCU, UNC, NCST and many other current P5 teams.

If you compare our P5 wins to UCF there is no comparison.

Conference realignment as almost everything to do with football and very little to do with  basketball. If otherwise, UConn, Memphis and Cincy would now be in a P5 conference.

 

I vote we send Mama Bull to the next big 12 expansion meeting 

Edited November 30, 2017 by Bullrush33

[Mama_Bull]

17 minutes ago, Bullrush33 said:

I vote we send Mama Bull to the next big 12 expansion meeting 

Thanks, but USF doesn't need me.

From what I have been told, by people in the know, the USF presentation to the Big 12 was considered the "best" of those presented by all the other schools.

If membership was based solely on the presentation, USF would have been one of those selected.

But, they ultimately decided not to expand at the time.

Hopefully, they will revisit the issue in the future.

If they do, and they decide to expand into Forida, then I expect it makes more sense to take both USF and UCF, because their schools would then be guaranteed one game in Florida every year and could take better advantage of recruiting the state. In addition, it brings in "rivals" which is exciting for TV, as evidenced by our game last week, which drew 6 million viewers on ABC and was the third best rating ever for college football in that time slot.

 

 

[NewEnglandBull]

1 hour ago, Mama_Bull said:

Tampa #13 is a bigger TV market than Orlando #19.

ONLY USF, FSU and UF are" preeminent" Universities in the state of Florida. UCF is NOT.

USF (#140) is also ranked 31 points better than UCF (#171) in USN&WR.

USF does about $500 million in research/yr and UCF only about $150 million/yr.

When we were in the Big East we averaged 45,000-50,000 every year in football. So we already have a multi-year track record of good attendance in a major conference. I believe only WVU drew better than USF in the BE. Our attendance compared to Pitt was, on average, about the same. The other BE teams were behind USF in attendance. That information was included in our presentation to the Big 12. So, they already know those facts

As for UCF, we have a better overall percentage of football wins and we were in a tougher conference.

We have won more bowl games than UCF and have a 6-3 record head to head.

Yes, they have won some "minor conference championships" and their one real claim to fame was beating Baylor in the Fiesta Bowl. 

However, we have much better wins over all including: Bowl win over Clemson, @Auburn, @FSU, @ Miami, @ND, Bowl win over South Carolina, and wins against WVU, Pitt, Louisville, TCU, UNC, NCST and many other current P5 teams.

If you compare our P5 wins to UCF there is no comparison.

Conference realignment as almost everything to do with football and very little to do with  basketball. If otherwise, UConn, Memphis and Cincy would now be in a P5 conference.

 

You just went nuclear! Well done! 

[Apis Bull]

Bill Snyder was just on ESPU Radio and he said that he'd like the Big12 to get back to 12 teams.  Not sure how much, if any, weight that pulls.

[NewEnglandBull]

20 minutes ago, Apis Bull said:

Bill Snyder was just on ESPU Radio and he said that he'd like the Big12 to get back to 12 teams.  Not sure how much, if any, weight that pulls.

Doubt that old man has any pull and he is on his way out. Indeed, I think what any coach says is completely irrelevant. They were all yapping last year and it made no difference. 

[Bull Dozer]

43 minutes ago, Apis Bull said:

Bill Snyder was just on ESPU Radio and he said that he'd like the Big12 to get back to 12 teams.  Not sure how much, if any, weight that pulls.

Only pull in that conference is in Norman and Austin.......Well, mostly Austin....

Edited November 30, 2017 by Bull Dozer