Re-watching game

[Supersurch]

It doesn't matter...until we become semi-relevant again, we will have to climb many obstacles to win a game like this.  It was the same scenario when CJL was trying to build this program.  Every top notched program we played, we had to play three times harder and want it three times more to pull a win. 

 

This is probably my least favorite thing about CFB.  There is definitely favoritism towards long-standing-successful programs.  It's good to be on the good end of the stick, but really tough to be on the other end.

[South_Florida_Flip]

McEvoy jumped over a player and was hit when his foot landed in bounds, so it's not a late hit.

[Triple B]

 

 

Grabbing the shoulder pad and yanking a player down will generally get the foul called.  It's the act of yanking a player down that they are calling in an effort to protect against injury.  Exactly where he grabbed the shoulder pad isn't so much the concern.

 

 

Where he grabs is a concern, according to the rule ....

 

Horse Collar Tackle

 

ARTICLE 15. All players are prohibited from grabbing the inside back collar of the shoulder pads or jersey, or the inside collar of the side of the shoulder pads or jersey, and immediately pulling the ball carrier down. This does not apply to a ball carrier, including a potential passer, who is inside the tackle box (Rule 2-34). Note that the tackle box disintegrates when the ball leaves it.

 

http://www.dfoa.com/attachments/article/69/2013-14_Football_Rule_Book.pdf

 

If there's some stuff out there where it says they are expanding the interpretation of the rule, it would be interesting to see ...

 

No interpretation, it's called a Flag.

 

Like asking ten different Cop('pers) the law on something and you'll get 10 different interpretations even though they are reading the exact same law.  Some will enforce the law to a T and others...well, they will enforce it as they interpret it.

 

 

Some rules/laws are open to legitimate interpretation, some not. This one isn't. If the grabbing isn't of the INSIDE back or side of the collar, it's not a penalty under the horse collar rule ...

[Rizman]

Refs make mistake, it happens and it is part of the game.  Sometimes the speed causes the issues.  Let it go, and one day we will get a break and the call will be our way.   Hint: Pay off the ref or get rid of the Ref john.

[dabull80]

OK  Since you guys re-watched it I have a question.......I want to say third qtr and it was a third down play by Wisc.  Their RB got the first down by a small margin and I think the announcers said he rolled over a player and didn't touch the ground but I know when I saw it I was sure he touched the ground and it was a bad spot.  Should have been fourth down....anyone else see that ?  May have been the beer

[dabull80]

Refs make mistake, it happens and it is part of the game.  Sometimes the speed causes the issues.  Let it go, and one day we will get a break and the call will be our way.   Hint: Pay off the ref or get rid of the Ref john.

 

 

Just Fing around here trying to get the Quote working....NM

Edited September 30, 2014 by dabull80

[2000bull]

OK  Since you guys re-watched it I have a question.......I want to say third qtr and it was a third down play by Wisc.  Their RB got the first down by a small margin and I think the announcers said he rolled over a player and didn't touch the ground but I know when I saw it I was sure he touched the ground and it was a bad spot.  Should have been fourth down....anyone else see that ?  May have been the beer

I didn't rewatch, but if I remember correctly, the replay made it look like it didn't hit the ground.

[CousinRicky]

 

OK  Since you guys re-watched it I have a question.......I want to say third qtr and it was a third down play by Wisc.  Their RB got the first down by a small margin and I think the announcers said he rolled over a player and didn't touch the ground but I know when I saw it I was sure he touched the ground and it was a bad spot.  Should have been fourth down....anyone else see that ?  May have been the beer

I didn't rewatch, but if I remember correctly, the replay made it look like it didn't hit the ground.

 

 

Looked like a good call to me.

[Bear]

It doesn't really matter...

 

 

USF had many chances to make a difference; and they did not execute

[Who'sYourData?]

 

 

 

Grabbing the shoulder pad and yanking a player down will generally get the foul called.  It's the act of yanking a player down that they are calling in an effort to protect against injury.  Exactly where he grabbed the shoulder pad isn't so much the concern.

 

 

Where he grabs is a concern, according to the rule ....

 

Horse Collar Tackle

 

ARTICLE 15. All players are prohibited from grabbing the inside back collar of the shoulder pads or jersey, or the inside collar of the side of the shoulder pads or jersey, and immediately pulling the ball carrier down. This does not apply to a ball carrier, including a potential passer, who is inside the tackle box (Rule 2-34). Note that the tackle box disintegrates when the ball leaves it.

 

http://www.dfoa.com/attachments/article/69/2013-14_Football_Rule_Book.pdf

 

If there's some stuff out there where it says they are expanding the interpretation of the rule, it would be interesting to see ...

 

No interpretation, it's called a Flag.

 

Like asking ten different Cop('pers) the law on something and you'll get 10 different interpretations even though they are reading the exact same law.  Some will enforce the law to a T and others...well, they will enforce it as they interpret it.

 

 

Some rules/laws are open to legitimate interpretation, some not. This one isn't. If the grabbing isn't of the INSIDE back or side of the collar, it's not a penalty under the horse collar rule ...

 

 

I believe it is because one of the articles I read said that the main concern of the referees in this interpretation was whether the player was "yanked" down, as that is the head and neck injury concern.  I guess tearing up a knee is ok.  I'll have to see if I can dig up that particular article.