CousinRicky Posted September 29, 2014 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 582 Content Count: 22,676 Reputation: 5,813 Days Won: 108 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Still looking for that horse collar. Seemed to grab him by the shoulder pads. In first quarter when we were down at the 10, the 3rd down play looked messed up. Two receivers seem to be blocking for a run and White had no one to throw to. Funny thing when the announcer said "First and 10 Wisconsin" the fans would then repeat it - not yelling it - more like making fun and emphasizing that area's pronunciation of the con in Wisconsin. Noticed it at the game and re-watching reminded me. That long pass to Adams in 2nd qtr. was PI - no question. May be my imagination but when Wisc fumbled at the end of the half that freaking ref looked upset to have to signal 1st down for USF.' Really nice drive by USF after falling behind 17 - 3. Would love to see more of that. And the fumble really did take the air out of the balloon. Game over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who'sYourData? Posted September 29, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 410 Content Count: 19,525 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 24 Joined: 09/01/2006 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I'm pretty sure horse collar has been expanded to include the shoulder pads. I expect we'll be using two hand touch in a few more years. CWT states that there was "miscommunication" on that play. It was supposed to be a pass but White thought it was a run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Posted September 29, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 56 Content Count: 4,422 Reputation: 708 Days Won: 19 Joined: 03/16/2013 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Don't watch the second half.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm101 Posted September 29, 2014 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 173 Content Count: 6,944 Reputation: 2,223 Days Won: 12 Joined: 06/11/2010 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I like the way we are RESPONDING. We used to get defeated right away after trailing. We now just keep playing football, and - dare I say - play a bit better when we're a little behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELdaBull Posted September 29, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 86 Content Count: 17,061 Reputation: 1,429 Days Won: 19 Joined: 09/15/2005 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I just deleted this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South_Florida_Flip Posted September 29, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 99 Content Count: 10,565 Reputation: 93 Days Won: 7 Joined: 05/14/2005 Share Posted September 29, 2014 There was no horse collar and the late hit in the 4th quarter that offset their hold was a garbage call. McEvoy's foot was in bounds when he was hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who'sYourData? Posted September 30, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 410 Content Count: 19,525 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 24 Joined: 09/01/2006 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Grabbing the shoulder pad and yanking a player down will generally get the foul called. It's the act of yanking a player down that they are calling in an effort to protect against injury. Exactly where he grabbed the shoulder pad isn't so much the concern. Ditto the late hit. If a player it clearly headed out of bounds they'll let you get away with a shove to ensure he stays OOB, but not a hit. In both cases the players should know better, just like the jumping fouls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted September 30, 2014 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,610 Content Count: 74,509 Reputation: 10,798 Days Won: 422 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Grabbing the shoulder pad and yanking a player down will generally get the foul called. It's the act of yanking a player down that they are calling in an effort to protect against injury. Exactly where he grabbed the shoulder pad isn't so much the concern. Where he grabs is a concern, according to the rule .... Horse Collar Tackle ARTICLE 15. All players are prohibited from grabbing the inside back collar of the shoulder pads or jersey, or the inside collar of the side of the shoulder pads or jersey, and immediately pulling the ball carrier down. This does not apply to a ball carrier, including a potential passer, who is inside the tackle box (Rule 2-34). Note that the tackle box disintegrates when the ball leaves it. http://www.dfoa.com/attachments/article/69/2013-14_Football_Rule_Book.pdf If there's some stuff out there where it says they are expanding the interpretation of the rule, it would be interesting to see ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulls2k Posted September 30, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 17 Content Count: 980 Reputation: 91 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/07/2012 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Grabbing the shoulder pad and yanking a player down will generally get the foul called. It's the act of yanking a player down that they are calling in an effort to protect against injury. Exactly where he grabbed the shoulder pad isn't so much the concern. Where he grabs is a concern, according to the rule .... Horse Collar Tackle ARTICLE 15. All players are prohibited from grabbing the inside back collar of the shoulder pads or jersey, or the inside collar of the side of the shoulder pads or jersey, and immediately pulling the ball carrier down. This does not apply to a ball carrier, including a potential passer, who is inside the tackle box (Rule 2-34). Note that the tackle box disintegrates when the ball leaves it. http://www.dfoa.com/attachments/article/69/2013-14_Football_Rule_Book.pdf If there's some stuff out there where it says they are expanding the interpretation of the rule, it would be interesting to see ... No interpretation, it's called a Flag. Like asking ten different Cop('pers) the law on something and you'll get 10 different interpretations even though they are reading the exact same law. Some will enforce the law to a T and others...well, they will enforce it as they interpret it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted September 30, 2014 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 582 Content Count: 22,676 Reputation: 5,813 Days Won: 108 Joined: 09/13/2007 Author Share Posted September 30, 2014 I think I heard during the broadcast that that head ref did a BCS Championship game. Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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