KevinUSF00 Posted June 18, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 25 Content Count: 276 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/16/2009 Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) None of the four main sites (247, Rivals, ESPN, and Scout) currently him rated. But BCP currently has him rated as the #67th best prospect in Tampa. http://bigcountypreps.com/181/2013-winter-fire-79/ He is right behind three star recruits K.Gant and Oruwariye, who we are also recruiting very hard. He is also ranked by BCP as the #1 Slot Reciever in the area: Slot Receiver Rank Name School Class 1 Jocqui Ellison Lakewood 2014 2 Talvin Bailey Armwood 2014 3 Brandon Robinson Alonso 2014 4 Malik Johns Pasco 2014 5 Reggie Campbell Largo 2015 6 Kaylaun Edwards Armwood 2015 7 Sammie Jackson Lake Gibson 2015 8 Codaryl Pandolfo Ridge Community 2014 9 Josh Hyde Strawberry Crest 2014 10 Trevor Laurent Armwood 2016 http://bigcountypreps.com/181/rankings/football-position-rankings/ Edited June 18, 2013 by KevinUSF00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullcocky101 Posted June 18, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 89 Content Count: 1,803 Reputation: 187 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/09/2007 Share Posted June 18, 2013 He's kind of a small dude, so he will probably occupy a role similar to the one that Lindsey Lamar had while he played WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliable Source Posted June 18, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 731 Content Count: 10,367 Reputation: 170 Days Won: 40 Joined: 09/15/2008 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I don't think it's a factor of the rating sites not liking him much. They simply don't rank players until they have evaluated them live or looked at thier tape. I would imagine that once he plays in the upcoming 7 on 7 tournament next week, the sites will take notice of him. Partucularily if he has already committed to USF. I wouldn't be suprised to see him just moved into a star ranking as early as next Friday. And if you look on the Hudl site, there is a 6 minute video of him on game film, plus game film from 5 of his other games. I think some services have him as a two-star player which means they have indeed evaluated him they just didn't like him much. It's a factor. They don't do all that work evaluating players for nothin. Doesn't mean they always have it right though. Or they just look at what school he is gonna go to and assign some random number of stars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckparrothead Posted June 18, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 5 Content Count: 957 Reputation: 49 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/25/2011 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Or they just look at what school he is gonna go to and assign some random number of stars. Don't really see any basis for that claims. The accusation reminds me of the fact that you can go to a fan board for every single team of every single sport and find a certain percentage of people that are convinced the media hates their team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliable Source Posted June 18, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 731 Content Count: 10,367 Reputation: 170 Days Won: 40 Joined: 09/15/2008 Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) Or they just look at what school he is gonna go to and assign some random number of stars. Don't really see any basis for that claims. The accusation reminds me of the fact that you can go to a fan board for every single team of every single sport and find a certain percentage of people that are convinced the media hates their team. You haven't been paying attention if you haven't seen school by school bias in rankings. Take for example 2 4 star recent USF recruits who were downgraded the same day they committed. Fact. Even the local gossip board guys who worked for those sites complained that they had no control over it, that it came from the corporate ranking system. I watch this stuff assiduously, believe me, there is plenty of evidence. Edited June 18, 2013 by Bullwinkle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footnfan1 Posted June 18, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 88 Content Count: 3,462 Reputation: 566 Days Won: 6 Joined: 10/14/2010 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Thus, star ratings...team tolals..based on stars,average star per recruit, is worthless. Could not agree more. Sad though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reallyman Posted June 18, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 1 Content Count: 58 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/21/2012 Share Posted June 18, 2013 These star rankings are a joke....this kid is a player. period! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullyPulpit Posted June 19, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 365 Content Count: 6,466 Reputation: 1,893 Days Won: 35 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Or they just look at what school he is gonna go to and assign some random number of stars. Don't really see any basis for that claims. The accusation reminds me of the fact that you can go to a fan board for every single team of every single sport and find a certain percentage of people that are convinced the media hates their team. There is definitely anecdotal evidence to suggest this happens, and, when you think about it, it makes sense. These sites are driven by subscriber payments. If you have a large subscriber base you want to make them happy. How do you do that? Well, one way is to over-evaluate some of the kids they are bringing in. If USF fans had a choice between two recruiting services and one was constantly lauding our recruits and giving them higher rankings, I would imagine most casual fans would choose that service over the one that was being completely objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Pop Posted June 19, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 16 Content Count: 335 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 2 Joined: 01/16/2011 Author Share Posted June 19, 2013 @Mike_RTB: Jocqui Ellison informed me he is not committing today. @USFBulls_Rivals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullcocky101 Posted June 19, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 89 Content Count: 1,803 Reputation: 187 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/09/2007 Share Posted June 19, 2013 why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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