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#681 Databull

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 10:24 AM


Tell me the last time a school came out and denied they were talking to another conference and then DIDN'T move.


Texas. Oklahoma. Those two come to mind...


Yes, but they were in deep and serious talks, which is my point.
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"I always said I wouldn't leave WKU unless I had a chance to go win a national championship. I truly believe that can get done here," Taggart said in a room packed with family and friends from his hometown of Palmetto. "It wasn't too long ago where USF was No. 2 in the country. It's been proven we can get there. ... My vision for our football program is to win multiple championships in a first-class manner."


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Posted 10 June 2012 - 10:49 AM


FSU and CU will announce by Aug 15th, 2012 therefore be in BIG12 in 2013. There are ACC schools threatening litigation right now if FSU and CU move quickly so Is and Ts being crossed right now, prior to Big12 Commissioner switch and after playoff vote.


:rolleyes:


Wasn't you questioning me on every WVU to get out of Big East with payout that was pretty close the whole time, hell even Greg Aumen (sports writer called me nuts). This is happening just give it time, then the real question is will UL, UConn, SU follow Pitt in suing BE to get out early for 2013?
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Posted 10 June 2012 - 11:42 AM



FSU and CU will announce by Aug 15th, 2012 therefore be in BIG12 in 2013. There are ACC schools threatening litigation right now if FSU and CU move quickly so Is and Ts being crossed right now, prior to Big12 Commissioner switch and after playoff vote.


:rolleyes:


Wasn't you questioning me on every WVU to get out of Big East with payout that was pretty close the whole time


No, I weren't ...

And you'll be able to have one big "I told you so" if there's an announcement by 8/15/12 ...
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Posted 10 June 2012 - 12:13 PM




FSU and CU will announce by Aug 15th, 2012 therefore be in BIG12 in 2013. There are ACC schools threatening litigation right now if FSU and CU move quickly so Is and Ts being crossed right now, prior to Big12 Commissioner switch and after playoff vote.


:rolleyes:


Wasn't you questioning me on every WVU to get out of Big East with payout that was pretty close the whole time


No, I weren't ...

And you'll be able to have one big "I told you so" if there's an announcement by 8/15/12 ...

I saw what you did there. I get a big I told you so, maybe the biggest for all the crap I've gotten. And believe me......... :furious3:
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Posted 10 June 2012 - 12:53 PM



http://floridastate....asp?CID=1373523

Barron did not really close the door. The saga continues!


Of course, he didn't close the door ... you never want to close the door completely ... but he did, unless he's flat out lying, put the kibosh on anything happening with this in the next several months .... which it would need to for the 2013 season, if I understand correctly.


You do understand that if anyone admits to having discussions before FSU has formally withdrawn both FSU and the B12 open themselves up to lawsuits from the Big 12?

I really find it amazing that the Big 12 commish and school representatives make these statements and everyone believes them. Less than a week before A&M withdrew from the Big 12, everyone was denying it. Less than a week before TCU jumped back into the Big 12, Dodds said they absolutely were not talking to the Big 12.

This is all a smokescreen, and it's been repeated over and over.

Tell me the last time a school came out and denied they were talking to another conference and then DIDN'T move.


Hard to find a lot of stuff from the parties involved a couple of months before the announcements back then so it's pretty difficult to compare the atmosphere at those points in time .... except for aTm. Not sure where you're getting everyone was denying it up to a week before it happened. Here's an article from two weeks before it happened http://msn.foxsports...join-SEC-081311 . Like Joe said that had been building for awhile and most knew what was coming.
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Posted 10 June 2012 - 01:23 PM

Jesus, you guys have way too much freaken time on your hands.
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Posted 10 June 2012 - 09:42 PM

Hard to find a lot of stuff from the parties involved a couple of months before the announcements back then so it's pretty difficult to compare the atmosphere at those points in time .... except for aTm. Not sure where you're getting everyone was denying it up to a week before it happened. Here's an article from two weeks before it happened http://msn.foxsports...join-SEC-081311 . Like Joe said that had been building for awhile and most knew what was coming.


You only knew it had been building for a while because some of us were on here talking about it months earlier, just like we are now.

When FSU announces they are "evaluating options" in a few weeks, don't tell us you knew it all along.
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Posted 10 June 2012 - 11:26 PM


Hard to find a lot of stuff from the parties involved a couple of months before the announcements back then so it's pretty difficult to compare the atmosphere at those points in time .... except for aTm. Not sure where you're getting everyone was denying it up to a week before it happened. Here's an article from two weeks before it happened http://msn.foxsports...join-SEC-081311 . Like Joe said that had been building for awhile and most knew what was coming.


You only knew it had been building for a while because some of us were on here talking about it months earlier, just like we are now.


Um, no. I know it from doing a Google search and seeing that the Aggies were contemplating leaving a year earlier ...... and then couldn't find anybody denying anything a week before their announcement like you said.



When FSU announces they are "evaluating options" in a few weeks, don't tell us you knew it all along.


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Posted 11 June 2012 - 06:43 AM

FSU and the Big 12 have been talking for several months.
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 07:11 AM

I think (Caution: No link provided), that schools are now just as focused in getting into one of the big 4 conferences in order to have any shot at a NC game. This top 4 crap is built around keeping the smaller schools out. SOS within their conferences will be the determining factor.
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 07:52 AM

FSU and the Big 12 have been talking for several months.



WVU and FSU admins and family is very close. Alot has happened but FSU and Big 12 has not directly talked yet, indirectly yes.
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:54 AM


FSU and the Big 12 have been talking for several months.



WVU and FSU admins and family is very close. Alot has happened but FSU and Big 12 has not directly talked yet, indirectly yes.


Of course. That is the way the game is played. Otherwise FSU and B12 people could not stand at a podium and say they haven't spoken. In reality, they have been negotiating through intermediaries for months.
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"I always said I wouldn't leave WKU unless I had a chance to go win a national championship. I truly believe that can get done here," Taggart said in a room packed with family and friends from his hometown of Palmetto. "It wasn't too long ago where USF was No. 2 in the country. It's been proven we can get there. ... My vision for our football program is to win multiple championships in a first-class manner."


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Posted 11 June 2012 - 12:17 PM



FSU and the Big 12 have been talking for several months.



WVU and FSU admins and family is very close. Alot has happened but FSU and Big 12 has not directly talked yet, indirectly yes.


Of course. That is the way the game is played. Otherwise FSU and B12 people could not stand at a podium and say they haven't spoken. In reality, they have been negotiating through intermediaries for months.


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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:15 AM

FWIW:

Let’s all forget my recent prediction that Florida State and Clemson would leave the ACC for the Big 12. Not just because the Big 12 has said it wants to stay at 10 members. From what I’m hearing, recruits in SEC and ACC country have made it clear that they aren’t interested in playing in Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, etc. Did you notice the news release last week about Tigers coach Dabo Swinney's new contract? Both he and the chair of the Board of Trustees mention succeeding in the ACC for years to come.



http://espn.go.com/b...ctured-contract
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:50 AM


FSU and the Big 12 have been talking for several months.



WVU and FSU admins and family is very close. Alot has happened but FSU and Big 12 has not directly talked yet, indirectly yes.


Could you please learn how to speak correctly, at least when you're typing? You don't need to reinforce the stereotypes about our school/state.

It's "weren't you" not "wasn't you" (from an earlier post of yours)

It's "FSU and B12 have not directly..", not "has not directly"


Also, making any absolute guarantees in any of this reallignment crap is a moronic thing to do.

Are there negotiations going on? Seems likely. Anything a done deal? Seems unlikely at this point. None of us knows anything for sure. If it does come to pass, so be it. But neither you nor I nor realistically anyone else on these internet boards "knows" what's going to happen.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 10:01 AM

FWIW:


Let’s all forget my recent prediction that Florida State and Clemson would leave the ACC for the Big 12. Not just because the Big 12 has said it wants to stay at 10 members. From what I’m hearing, recruits in SEC and ACC country have made it clear that they aren’t interested in playing in Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, etc. Did you notice the news release last week about Tigers coach Dabo Swinney's new contract? Both he and the chair of the Board of Trustees mention succeeding in the ACC for years to come.



http://espn.go.com/b...ctured-contract

Wonder who had been telling them that's where they would be playing?
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 10:03 AM



FSU and the Big 12 have been talking for several months.



WVU and FSU admins and family is very close. Alot has happened but FSU and Big 12 has not directly talked yet, indirectly yes.


Could you please learn how to speak correctly, at least when you're typing? You don't need to reinforce the stereotypes about our school/state.

It's "weren't you" not "wasn't you" (from an earlier post of yours)

It's "FSU and B12 have not directly..", not "has not directly"


You forgot "WVU and FSU admins and family are very close." :D

Also, making any absolute guarantees in any of this reallignment crap is a moronic thing to do.

Are there negotiations going on? Seems likely. Anything a done deal? Seems unlikely at this point. None of us knows anything for sure. If it does come to pass, so be it. But neither you nor I nor realistically anyone else on these internet boards "knows" what's going to happen.


Chalk up another person that gets it. :applause:
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 10:05 AM


FWIW:


Let’s all forget my recent prediction that Florida State and Clemson would leave the ACC for the Big 12. Not just because the Big 12 has said it wants to stay at 10 members. From what I’m hearing, recruits in SEC and ACC country have made it clear that they aren’t interested in playing in Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, etc. Did you notice the news release last week about Tigers coach Dabo Swinney's new contract? Both he and the chair of the Board of Trustees mention succeeding in the ACC for years to come.



http://espn.go.com/b...ctured-contract

Wonder who had been telling them that's where they would be playing?


*speculation alert* Maybe no one had been telling them anything ... since we all know recruits read the news also, maybe they've been seeing the rumors and have expressed concerns to the coaches with no prompting.

Who knows?
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 10:08 AM



FWIW:


Let’s all forget my recent prediction that Florida State and Clemson would leave the ACC for the Big 12. Not just because the Big 12 has said it wants to stay at 10 members. From what I’m hearing, recruits in SEC and ACC country have made it clear that they aren’t interested in playing in Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, etc. Did you notice the news release last week about Tigers coach Dabo Swinney's new contract? Both he and the chair of the Board of Trustees mention succeeding in the ACC for years to come.



http://espn.go.com/b...ctured-contract

Wonder who had been telling them that's where they would be playing?


*speculation alert* Maybe no one had been telling them anything ... since we all know recruits read the news also, maybe they've been seeing the rumors and have expressed concerns to the coaches with no prompting.

Who knows?

Some know a lot less than others,. A LOT less.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 10:11 AM




FWIW:


Let’s all forget my recent prediction that Florida State and Clemson would leave the ACC for the Big 12. Not just because the Big 12 has said it wants to stay at 10 members. From what I’m hearing, recruits in SEC and ACC country have made it clear that they aren’t interested in playing in Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, etc. Did you notice the news release last week about Tigers coach Dabo Swinney's new contract? Both he and the chair of the Board of Trustees mention succeeding in the ACC for years to come.



http://espn.go.com/b...ctured-contract

Wonder who had been telling them that's where they would be playing?


*speculation alert* Maybe no one had been telling them anything ... since we all know recruits read the news also, maybe they've been seeing the rumors and have expressed concerns to the coaches with no prompting.

Who knows?

Some know a lot less than others,. A LOT less.


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