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[BullyPulpit]

Alright, only 365 more days until signing day. Who are our top targets outside of Asiantii Woulard?

[2000bull]

I would think Hargreaves would be high on the list

http://247sports.com...eaves-III-11340

[The Great 8]

Woulard and Hargreaves.

Kevin Olsen (QB) is a big one. It's odd that Woulard and Olsen are opposite QB's though basically...how do you recruit that way? You're either a spread system or a pro set. See Brantley at UF for an example of fitting a square peg in a round hole.

We're lucky Harvgreaves dad is here otherwise, I don't think we'd have a shot.

[The Great 8]

My analysis of who we'll have on roster after the 2012-13 season at our weakest spots (QB, RB, LB, CB):

• QB: Eveld, Floyd. There's no obvious starter. Insufficient depth.
• RB: Battles, Davis, Shaw, Pierre. Again, no obvious stater, but a lot of talent. E.g. People forget that Battles was ranked higher than Tavon Austin out of high school. Hopefully one establishes themselves as a clear #2 (or even #1) to Murray this year. Needs depth.
• LB: Lattimore, Pozniak, Louis, Cliett, Caprice, Whitehurst. We probably have enough for a 2 deep. Really scary with starting MLB spot though, do we switch over Dede?
• CB: Durden, Garye, Tabuteau, Bivins, Montgomery, McCall. We lose both of our probable starters and are basically a lot of guys who have next to zero experience in D1 football. I'm personally terrified here and QB most. (Gee switching T-Rex was so freaking genius.)

Most of the above probably should've been addressed THIS season, with the exception of maybe RB. I guess we did cover CB with Bivins and the JUCO's but QB and LB were major whiffs.

Edited by The Great 8, 01 February 2012 - 03:54 PM.

[KB]

[Bullwinkle]

My analysis of who we'll have on roster after the 2012-13 season at our weakest spots (QB, RB, LB, CB):

• QB: Eveld, Floyd. There's no obvious starter. Insufficient depth.
• RB: Battles, Davis, Shaw, Pierre. Again, no obvious stater, but a lot of talent. E.g. People forget that Battles was ranked higher than Tavon Austin out of high school. Hopefully one establishes themselves as a clear #2 (or even #1) to Murray this year. Needs depth.
• LB: Lattimore, Pozniak, Louis, Cliett, Caprice, Whitehurst. We probably have enough for a 2 deep. Really scary with starting MLB spot though, do we switch over Dede?
• CB: Durden, Garye, Tabuteau, Bivins, Montgomery, McCall. We lose both of our probable starters and are basically a lot of guys who have next to zero experience in D1 football. I'm personally terrified here and QB most. (Gee switching T-Rex was so freaking genius.)

Most of the above probably should've been addressed THIS season, with the exception of maybe RB. I guess we did cover CB with Bivins and the JUCO's but QB and LB were major whiffs.

Yeah I would have loved that TREX vs, Floyd matchup to start last season. TREX would have been giving up a foot and about 200 yds.

[The Great 8]

^ As opposed to doing nothing on offense.

[Bullwinkle]

^ As opposed to doing nothing on offense.

Thought he excelled at Punt returns and he has a lot of time left to make a real impact on Offense. That problem is Fitch not where he is playing.

[ncentonze]

It would be a great NSD when USF gets more than 1 5-star recruit.

[Rizman]

My analysis of who we'll have on roster after the 2012-13 season at our weakest spots (QB, RB, LB, CB):

• QB: Eveld, Floyd. There's no obvious starter. Insufficient depth.
• RB: Battles, Davis, Shaw, Pierre. Again, no obvious stater, but a lot of talent. E.g. People forget that Battles was ranked higher than Tavon Austin out of high school. Hopefully one establishes themselves as a clear #2 (or even #1) to Murray this year. Needs depth.
• LB: Lattimore, Pozniak, Louis, Cliett, Caprice, Whitehurst. We probably have enough for a 2 deep. Really scary with starting MLB spot though, do we switch over Dede?
• CB: Durden, Garye, Tabuteau, Bivins, Montgomery, McCall. We lose both of our probable starters and are basically a lot of guys who have next to zero experience in D1 football. I'm personally terrified here and QB most. (Gee switching T-Rex was so freaking genius.)

Most of the above probably should've been addressed THIS season, with the exception of maybe RB. I guess we did cover CB with Bivins and the JUCO's but QB and LB were major whiffs.

Great assessment The Great 8

[Rizman]

We need a kick butt season to really turn in a big recruiting class. 8-4 at a minimum.

[GoUSFBULLS274]

My analysis of who we'll have on roster after the 2012-13 season at our weakest spots (QB, RB, LB, CB):

• QB: Eveld, Floyd. There's no obvious starter. Insufficient depth.
• RB: Battles, Davis, Shaw, Pierre. Again, no obvious stater, but a lot of talent. E.g. People forget that Battles was ranked higher than Tavon Austin out of high school. Hopefully one establishes themselves as a clear #2 (or even #1) to Murray this year. Needs depth.
• LB: Lattimore, Pozniak, Louis, Cliett, Caprice, Whitehurst. We probably have enough for a 2 deep. Really scary with starting MLB spot though, do we switch over Dede?
• CB: Durden, Garye, Tabuteau, Bivins, Montgomery, McCall. We lose both of our probable starters and are basically a lot of guys who have next to zero experience in D1 football. I'm personally terrified here and QB most. (Gee switching T-Rex was so freaking genius.)

Most of the above probably should've been addressed THIS season, with the exception of maybe RB. I guess we did cover CB with Bivins and the JUCO's but QB and LB were major whiffs.

You forgot Dixon and Brown at corner and Hamilton at LB. A couple of those guys could be starters down the road. I really like Dixon but he can't seem to stay healthy.

[The Great 8]

^ As opposed to doing nothing on offense.

Thought he excelled at Punt returns and he has a lot of time left to make a real impact on Offense. That problem is Fitch not where he is playing.

Punt returns is not offense. He could be a corner returning punts

[The Great 8]

My analysis of who we'll have on roster after the 2012-13 season at our weakest spots (QB, RB, LB, CB):

• QB: Eveld, Floyd. There's no obvious starter. Insufficient depth.
• RB: Battles, Davis, Shaw, Pierre. Again, no obvious stater, but a lot of talent. E.g. People forget that Battles was ranked higher than Tavon Austin out of high school. Hopefully one establishes themselves as a clear #2 (or even #1) to Murray this year. Needs depth.
• LB: Lattimore, Pozniak, Louis, Cliett, Caprice, Whitehurst. We probably have enough for a 2 deep. Really scary with starting MLB spot though, do we switch over Dede?
• CB: Durden, Garye, Tabuteau, Bivins, Montgomery, McCall. We lose both of our probable starters and are basically a lot of guys who have next to zero experience in D1 football. I'm personally terrified here and QB most. (Gee switching T-Rex was so freaking genius.)

Most of the above probably should've been addressed THIS season, with the exception of maybe RB. I guess we did cover CB with Bivins and the JUCO's but QB and LB were major whiffs.

You forgot Dixon and Brown at corner and Hamilton at LB. A couple of those guys could be starters down the road. I really like Dixon but he can't seem to stay healthy.

I meant to put "etc" in the corners area.

We have a lot of DB's; but they're almost entirely unknown (except at S where we should be comfortable with Joyce/Jenkins). Heck, Baker is a reach this year as a starter and the guys behind him are worse. Nobody stepped up last year at the #3 besides Jenkins and he's a safety. If nobody steps up again, we're in real big trouble.

[Ricky the Bull]

Coach Holtz tonight indicated that we will have a full (25+) recruiting class next year and gave a breakdown of the number of players that they hope to sign by position. He indicated that he is targeting to sign 2 QBs.

Someone asked whether Coach Hargreaves' son would be the jewel of next year's class. Skip joked that there would probably be several in-home visits.

Edited by Ricky the Bull, 01 February 2012 - 10:03 PM.

[bulldozier1]

I hope D'vo Montgomery is helping to land this future 4-5 star QB.

[Bullwinkle]

^ As opposed to doing nothing on offense.

Thought he excelled at Punt returns and he has a lot of time left to make a real impact on Offense. That problem is Fitch not where he is playing.

Punt returns is not offense. He could be a corner returning punts

Yeah, a 60 yard punt return has no offensive impact. He is a soph for christ sake. let him mature. He is gonna have a breakout year. We have so many weapons now.

[Triple B]

Someone asked whether Coach Hargreaves' son would be the jewel of next year's class. Skip joked that there would probably be several in-home visits.

Geezus, why would someone ask that question and why did Skip respond to it, even jokingly, other than "I can't comment on players not signed yet" ??

[Bull Martin]

Someone asked whether Coach Hargreaves' son would be the jewel of next year's class. Skip joked that there would probably be several in-home visits.

Geezus, why would someone ask that question and why did Skip respond to it, even jokingly, other than "I can't comment on players not signed yet" ??

Calm down. USF is not going to get in trouble for something like that. Skip handled that perfectly

[The Great 8]

Yeah, a 60 yard punt return has no offensive impact. He is a soph for christ sake. let him mature. He is gonna have a breakout year. We have so many weapons now.

I don't care if it has offensive impact. It's not an offensive position. Was Kayvon on offense when he recovered the football and scored against ND? I'm pretty sure that had some offensive impact too.

He might have a breakout year, if he does, it's probably more of a testament to his supreme athletic ability. He has a lot less in the way of having a breakout year at CB than he does at WR. If Griffin/Dunkley/Davis stay healthy, he doesn't crack the 2 deep.